Find Nearest CAD element

[[Br...]]

Within PcDmis there is a function within a point template to "Find Nearest CAD Element".
We use this specify the location that a point is measured on an angle or surface.
As in the example I can change the "Z" location, click on "Find Nearest CAD Element" and it will update the Nominals
using the CAD model.

Is there a way to accomplish this in Calypso?

[[Cl...]]

I would think you could do something as simple as using a space-point and change the XYZ/IJK nominals to whatever you need.

[[Br...]]

Thank you for the reply Clarke,

Yes, I can do that if I know what the Nominals will be.
Right now my options are to trig it out or open the model in Solidworks.
Or, open the model in PcDmis and use Find Nearest CAD element to get the location.
We have customers that require a point to be taken at a specific location on a surface or compound angle.

Brian

[[Ro...]]

Did they change the icon from Binocular to what it is now?
Ive said in the past that the PCD binocular tool is the best tool when dealing with cad model updates, bar none.
You can load a new model and go thru and redefine all your features, but while Calypso Comparison only turns the surface pink, PCD actually updates the nominal geometries.

And no, i haven't found anything in Calypso that does what the binocular tool does.

[[Ia...]]

It is so much easier to do in pcdmis. I had a specific part where I had to do something similar a few years ago, and this is how I did it (without trig.

Create a straight 2D line on the angled surface. Create a plane at the exact height you want to take your point. Create an intersection from both features. Copy and paste all the nominals to a new point.

There is probably a better method, because it is pretty tedious. It's also probably easier to just do it in pcdmis and get the nominals that way.

[[Da...]]

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I believe you are looking for CAD -> Creating features and then you can edit X, Y, Z and click Space Point.

Open created Space point and re-adjust if needed.

[[No...]]

I'm still not sure if I've grasped the actual problem 😕
If you want to create a space point, you select space point, click the CAD on where it should be, and it creates a point there (duh! 😮 )
Now what is it you want to do? Change a coordinate of the already created point (which will leave it dangling in space above the surface) and then snap it back onto the nearest surface, together with correct I,J,K values? Or is it something else?
Third day back at work, my brain isn't fully warmed up yet...

[[Br...]]

Norbert,
Yes, I know that I can click on the CAD model and it creates a point (duh! 😮 )

But yes, as you stated, I want to change a coordinate of the already created point and then snap it onto the nearest surface with the correct values.

Some of us do not have your level of knowledge and come onto this site looking for help.
It would be nice to be able to ask questions without being belittled.

[[Ju...]]

Once a point has been created, you can open the strategy for the point and drag the point wherever you need it to be on the CAD model, and it should automatically generate the IJK values.

[[No...]]

Sorry, you got me all wrong 😮 🫣
I was just trying to understand the problem, so I can (possibly) help. My tone may sometimes sound a bit impudent (maybe also because I'm not a native English speaker), but I did not mean to belittle you in any way.

[[Ia...]]

I believe his issue is relevant to this drawing:

Obviously, you can make a point and change the z value to 50. But then your point isn't touching the model surface (x or y value). In pcdmis, you can hit a button and it just corrects the point based on the model. But in Calypso, (from what I know) you have to make some theoretical intersections or cut sections to get the nominals you need.

You can just drag your cursor on the model to move the point to wherever you need. But if it needs to be at EXACTLY 50, you'd need to zoom in super far and hope your hand is steady. In the end I've found it easier to just grab the nominals by theocraticals. Or you can make a separate alignment, rotate the alignment to whatever degree your plane is nominally, and get it that way.

And for what it's worth, I don't believe Norbert was belittling you. It's common on the forum to just be direct.

[[Br...]]

Norbert,
Thank you for taking the time to respond.
Obviously, I misunderstood your first response.
Have a great day!

[[No...]]

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Unfortunately, this seems to be the case. I often need to have points at an exact height on the blades of freeform shaped fan wheels. I have developed different strategies to accomplish this (with section cuts as you describe), but none of them is easy or as comfortable as the PC-DMIS function. If you need to have the point on an intersection point, this method becomes super-tricky.

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Thinking about it, I guess this is the best and simplest way to do it.
Calypso still has a lot of potential for improvements...

[[Ow...]]

Brian Harkless , let me assure you.
I've read hundreds of Norbert Bendl's post/replies over the years and I know beyond the shadow of any doubt that he would NEVER intentionally belittle anybody.
He's helped hundreds figure things out and his long history/experience working with Zeiss equipment is priceless.
Unfortunately, the language barrier's throughout the world create a lot of misinterpretations.

[[Ch...]]

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No being a Sally allowed.