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Autorun: Moving Magnetic base plate and re-alignment


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Need help on autorun:

We are changing our magnetic plate on this CMM.
Pallet alignment is "magnetic plate alignment" and part alignment is part's base/start alignment.

If I change, my magnetic plate location a little off, and I re-align its base alignment, It should affect all my autorun programs without re-aligning all part's base alignment, is it correct?

Please guide me with this.

Because, after changing location of magnetic plate, and also re-aligning it, programs are not running correctly without re-align all part's base alignment.

Any ideas?
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Also, It's not only limited to re-aligning all the parts. But, even after doing so, I have to open all operations for that part, then right click pallet, "define pallet parameters", then close it by pressing "ok". Then pop up window comes saying "old alignment dimension" and "new alignment dimension", press "ok" again....

After all this, autorun going NORMAL again...

Any ideas how to do this process smoother and faster?
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If you use a pallet alignment, the part alignment is married to it. So, updating the Pallet Alignment is all that is necessary. You should not need to re-establish the part alignment.
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Agree with Tom.

That's what I am not getting here.
I did restart Calypso as well (to get settings applied if so)..

I am using Calypso 2021. It could be a bug in this?
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I once thought the pallet alignment and part alignment should be married together, and if you move the pallet alignment the part alignment should move with it. However, this did not perform logically in practice. In my experience, we learned that all the pallet alignment does is determine where the X and Y offsets will be in CMM space. The offsets themselves are always based off the base alignment. In other words if all your fixtures are square on the table and the CMM X/Y axes match the axes of your fixtures, you could use the same fixture alignment for all your pallets, no matter what fixture the base alignments are actually taken on. However, if one of your fixtures sits diagonally on the table, with the others square, you will definitely need that pallet to reference the diagonal fixture alignment.

I have actually placed a program into a pallet with a different fixture alignment, and it does not move to the other fixture alignment location. It moves to where the base alignment was taken and any offset locations from there (offsets move along the X and Y axes created from the pallet alignment, but locations are based on base alignment).

It's interesting how us users, in separate areas of the world can come to the same conclusion of how pallet and part alignments should be married/work together, but the software continues to not consider it in that way.

Once again, this is my experience, and I've never seen it react any other way (Calypso 2015, 2018, 2020, 2021). If anyone else has gotten this marriage to work, I would like to know how.
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Wait a minute.....
Calypso's idea of a "pallet" is some kind of plate on which all the fixtures are mounted. Move and rotate the plate, all the fixtures move with it, all the base alignments move with it. Then all you need to do is to reestablish the pallet alignment (which should be defined on the plate, not on one of the fixtures).
If you have a plate with some fixtures sitting square on it and some not, you need to define a pallet with seperate alignments for each fixture. These need to be established one by one, but only once. After that you can also move it and only reestablish the pallet alignment.

BUT: Having a number of seperate fixtures mounted directly on the granite table is not what Calypso means by a pallet.

It's worth the time to take a look at the help file. It describes four possible pallet scenarios and how to handle them.
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