[Ri...] Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 How do I determine which features require "Gage Correction Qualification" (GCQ) when it is active prior to run time? I know a program will fail to measure a feature that requires a GCQ, so that's the hard way. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/13248-gage-correction-qualification-activenot-active/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 bump... Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/13248-gage-correction-qualification-activenot-active/#findComment-67266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ow...] Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Please sign in to view this quote. Not sure I understand what you're asking ,If it's active prior to run, then that's already preset, right? It shouldn't be difficult to explain but, it can be depending on how you use it. To set a feature needing gauge correction, you open up the evaluation tab and select "gage correction" but, it must have a feature within the program to measure the gauge at a set location relative to the base alignment prior to running that feature - or- the gauge qualification was run with a separate program prior to running for the probe being used. I used to have a program where I set a ring gauge in a designated location beside the part being measured, I used a little make-shift fixture to locate the ring gauge off of the part so it would always be in that location and then I would run the gauge qualification feature in the program before running the features that required the correction. Clear as mud right?...probably not but we're all limited with time on this forum. Attached is an instruction document that may help. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/13248-gage-correction-qualification-activenot-active/#findComment-67268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 Thank you Owen. I am trying to figure out how I know a program uses GCQ. If an operator starts a program and it requires GCQ, it will fail measuring features. Our second shift is the concern, they do not have the experience to edit programs. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/13248-gage-correction-qualification-activenot-active/#findComment-67270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ow...] Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I see. I always put it in the measurement plan comment/instructions that is shown in the run menu and then also put a comment with PCM in the presettings to tell the operator to not forget that the probe needs the gauge qualification run before running the program. You could also put a program stop in the first feature (if you're running off features) to inform the operator. However, because I put it in the program (not a separate program) I don't remember it ever not measuring a feature. That's been a few versions ago, so they could've changed it. I used it specifically on a disk probe. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/13248-gage-correction-qualification-activenot-active/#findComment-67272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 The failure occurs on styli that needs or has been re-qualified. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/13248-gage-correction-qualification-activenot-active/#findComment-67274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Jo...] Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Please sign in to view this quote. Just had this issue with Disc stylus. I was able to change the limits for that stylus only and prevent this. My problem was the Sigma was above my global threshold, as it is a manual qualification. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/13248-gage-correction-qualification-activenot-active/#findComment-67276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Sorry to hijack this conversation but does anyone know if Gage Correction corrects the X and Y, too? I've always assumed it did not and have leaned towards using manual corrections using data collected in the ring gage program. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/13248-gage-correction-qualification-activenot-active/#findComment-67278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Jo...] Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Please sign in to view this quote. In my case it did not have an appreciable effect on them. I have two features in my qualification program. One is the gage correction qualification, the other is an identical circle with gage correction selected in evaluation. It corrects diameter , but didn't seem to affect location. This is my first use , and the deviation is around .0000X " and is not a problem in my application. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/13248-gage-correction-qualification-activenot-active/#findComment-67280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ow...] Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 When I've used this puppy, it didn't seem to affect the position accuracy, maybe 0.002mm. I always check the same front and back bore features on the ends with a much shorter standard 4mm probes and compared them with what the disk obtained. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/13248-gage-correction-qualification-activenot-active/#findComment-67282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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