[Ke...] Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 This should be an easy one for the GD&T guys. How much "bonus tolerance" is given for the case that: The hole diameter specification being evaluated is 10mm +0.2/-0; but the actual feature measures 10.3? The software gives the full 0.3mm, however it seems counterintuitive that "bonus" should be given for the 0.1mm over spec... I would think that only the allowable specified tolerance (0.2mm) should be allowed/applied. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14208-true-position-mmc-oversized-hole/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Er...] Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Well, the bonus is indeed 0.3. Because thats how much extra tolerance on the position you have, for the fit. But you can limit it: Extras > Settings > Measurement... > MMC/LMC Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14208-true-position-mmc-oversized-hole/#findComment-74006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Cl...] Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Calypso should have a built in safe-guard against applying any bonus beyond what is allowed. We all get complacent from time to time. I could see this getting missed. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14208-true-position-mmc-oversized-hole/#findComment-74008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. If you change the default settings like Eric mentioned, I bet you won't make that mistake again. 😃 If you had been in one of my Calypso Basic training classes, that is one setting I would have covered. There are other things in Calypso that I feel should be default but I've learned to think of Calypso as a toolbox full of tools. Zeiss leaves it up to us which tools to use and how to use them. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14208-true-position-mmc-oversized-hole/#findComment-74010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. What kind of training you providing online or offline? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14208-true-position-mmc-oversized-hole/#findComment-74012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ni...] Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Hope this attachment helps. I purchased the ASME Y14.5-2009 pocket guide from Amazon and its been invaluable for me!MMC from ASME Y14.5-2009.jpg Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14208-true-position-mmc-oversized-hole/#findComment-74014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. As of June 2018, we no longer offer official Zeiss training. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14208-true-position-mmc-oversized-hole/#findComment-74016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. Just ordered it. Price is very less .... Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14208-true-position-mmc-oversized-hole/#findComment-74018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. Ok.... Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14208-true-position-mmc-oversized-hole/#findComment-74020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Er...] Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just a question, you guys need to pay for stuff like standards etc? 😱 We have an online library containing pretty much every standard there is, from metrology to electrical to you name it. Most are accessable, with a click. (Binded version will be sent with mail if you wish) Those who isn't pre-paid, I'll just clear with my boss (who never denies my request) to "one click"-purchase. And the cost will be put upon my divisions account. I would never pay for work related stuff my self 😃 How is this done in your country/region? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14208-true-position-mmc-oversized-hole/#findComment-74022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ch...] Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 I would never pay for work related stuff but I'm lucky enough to work for a place that will spend money on their quality department. I don't get told no very often. Eric, do you guys get to use Seimens software for free? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14208-true-position-mmc-oversized-hole/#findComment-74024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ni...] Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. I pay for because the it my personal equipment, no one tells me what to do with it and it never grows legs 😃 That goes for all my tools, when i leave my tool box comes with me Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14208-true-position-mmc-oversized-hole/#findComment-74026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. Training in my country happens once in a blue moon. 🙄 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14208-true-position-mmc-oversized-hole/#findComment-74028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Er...] Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. It's free for me 😃 Well, we are not the same division, I work for Energy, and the ones making for example NX is another division. So I guess we pay a small fee? I don't really know. One cool thing though, developers sometime reach out to Siemens employees working in the "field", So I have a part in the making of upcoming software for voxel data evaluation. (But the software will most likely suck.. 😃) If I leave, I don't think anyone cares if I take "my" books and my papers along.. (Unless it's Company proprietary info) Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14208-true-position-mmc-oversized-hole/#findComment-74030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ch...] Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. This is how the good companies I've worked for operate. If a company is getting Gestapo about accounting for your $100 worth of training materials then that company has problems. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14208-true-position-mmc-oversized-hole/#findComment-74032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Er...] Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Exactly, if they bitch out over some papers. I'll make a fart sound in the phone when they call and ask how all the wired stuff is connected... Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14208-true-position-mmc-oversized-hole/#findComment-74034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ni...] Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. I work for a company that mainly produces goods for Military, Aerospace and Nuclear customers so yes theft is theft. If its not your property then its not yours....period. I have controlled goods certification and if I'm convicted of theft there could be big penalties, not to mention never getting a job again in the military, aerospace or Nuclear field. But different strokes for different folks....you do you. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14208-true-position-mmc-oversized-hole/#findComment-74036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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