[SH...] Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Is there is any option to edit the cycle time in the piweb report,I can edit the dimensions but I don't know how to edit cycle time.. Thanks for the help... Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mi...] Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 I'm in my Pi-Web infancy but if you could be a little more specific, I could give it a shot. Otherwise, I'm sure one of the experts will show up sooner or later. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 Yes, we have time in the piweb report, some time I run the program only without running the machine my measuring time will be zero. I want edit it to actual cycle time.. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mi...] Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. You mean in simulation? If that's the case it will only display the correct runtime if you actually measure a part. For instance, the part in the photo I attached takes 30 mins to actually run, but in simulation it takes less than a minute. If there is a way to display actual runtime without measuring a real part, I'm unaware of it. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. Iam asking about editing the meaured time not displaying. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Za...] Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Why would you want to edit the run time? What would be the reason to manipulate that? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. I have an irritating customer always ask more reports so what we do that we check few jobs and create more report by editing, but I can't edit the measuring time it shows zero after running the program only, and customer asking why the cycle time is zero. And it became a nightmare for us to debate with customer. Simple words customer satisfaction Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Za...] Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 I'm pretty sure you can remove the runtime from the report if you edit the template from that program. But I would try to either talk the customer out of needing more reports or actually measure the parts as required by the customer that is paying you to do so. Dangerous road sending out reports with false data to customers and probably illegal. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mi...] Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. May I ask which template you are using? I went with "Standard Protocol" and edited to my liking. I did not have to add "Measurement Duration" as it was already present on the template. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. Hah, in this corporate world you can't run your company if you are hundred percentage honest, you have to manipulate. My customer rarely check job in his CMM. But he is more emphasis on document, I can't cut the cycle time. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. Iam using standard protocol. Anyway I will try in Adobe pdf editor . Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. Either use your own template or edit your pdf. Why is it important that your customer knows the cycle time? I would not let our customers know our cycle time. Cause if I could reduce the cycle time they would want reduced price of the part. Let them know the hard facts partid, measurement results and evaluation. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. According to purchase order contract agreement, cycle time is not their business,but unfortunately I send earlier report with cycle time. if I cut it definitely they will ask about it, that is a problem. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Da...] Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 WOW. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Me...] Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. Disgusting. Maybe you should put that on your website so that your customers understand your level of integrity. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. Customer is satisfied with our product,he is planning to give us more orders,please understand. we have only one CMM and it is impossible for us to run according to customer advice ,it will affect other production planning. Please don't judge a book by its cover.. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ke...] Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. Sure, sure... just wait until the customer(s) look at the actual data, and you lose all the business, and your reputation. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Er...] Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 I hope you arn't in medical or Aero business. I dont like to die because your company feels like making more profit by taking short cuts. Quality people usually is brutally honest (and enjoy it). Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ma...] Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 What about using userfield with predefinned duration, or some 1/0 which in template will affect condition ( if 0 then real time else predefinned time ) Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ia...] Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. The customer is satisfied, therefor we are allowed to forge data and lie about it. Makes perfect sense. Always assumed this stuff happened, just never thought someone would openly admit to it. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. Yes, I should be diplomatic. I should not disclose that in this forum. Now everyone is roasting me. Some guys using me to showcase their honesty... 😠 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. Yes, iam not. Some pressure situation a lie is better than a killing truth.. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. Yes, this is what I am expecting, your great. Please disclose how can I do this in piweb.. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. I would still change the template so that the header had less info and when they ask why. Just tell them that you have kept what is most critical in terms of traceability and evidens that parts are OK. I can understand why they would be suspicious if the only thing that is missing from former report is cycle. But change a couple of other things aswell then. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14794-editing-cycle-time/#findComment-78446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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