[SH...] Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 While using start alignment calypso asks me to check base alignment also, my start alignment and base alignment features are different and all my start alignment features are under base element not in any other secondary alignment. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14808-start-alignment-asking-base-alignment-feature/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Cl...] Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 If you don't check "Manual Alignment" it will default to the base alignment features. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14808-start-alignment-asking-base-alignment-feature/#findComment-78546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. Are you taking about this one??.IMG_20200820_192146.jpg Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14808-start-alignment-asking-base-alignment-feature/#findComment-78548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. No - inside of the Start Alignment. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14808-start-alignment-asking-base-alignment-feature/#findComment-78550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. Almost all program l have start alignment and I never tick that check box. Anyway I will tick it. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14808-start-alignment-asking-base-alignment-feature/#findComment-78552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Cl...] Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Sorry about that. I should have clarified that. I assumed you knew what I was explaining. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14808-start-alignment-asking-base-alignment-feature/#findComment-78554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. No need to say sorry, we are learning from our mistakes... Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14808-start-alignment-asking-base-alignment-feature/#findComment-78556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Jo...] Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. This happened to me this morning, wrote a program yesterday and forgot to check the manual alignment box. Easy to overlook. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14808-start-alignment-asking-base-alignment-feature/#findComment-78558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Cl...] Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 My excuse is that from my previous profession, I took too many shots to the head. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14808-start-alignment-asking-base-alignment-feature/#findComment-78560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ma...] Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 If base alignment is not needed ( just start align. ) then what's purpose of using start align. instead of base? I use start align. just in case, that user can not acceptably manually scan alignment, or it is more complex. If you want to get chars. and features then just use new alignment from extras. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14808-start-alignment-asking-base-alignment-feature/#findComment-78562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. I use start alignment only for save the time, my base alignment is more complicated it has intersection point. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14808-start-alignment-asking-base-alignment-feature/#findComment-78564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ma...] Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 I understand usage of start align. But i don't get why bother with start align instead of creating copy of program with base align. composed of features from start align. ie. why searching a way how to not scan a base align. 😉 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14808-start-alignment-asking-base-alignment-feature/#findComment-78566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Cl...] Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Over time, some programs lose the SA/BA offset, or it gets altered by a few thou. So, if I need to re-establish the Base Alignment, I use a separate (simple) Start Alignment. Here's a rather detailed base alignment with loads of points and features. If I don't use a simple start alignment here, then I will be prompted with the base alignment features which have up to hundreds of points (I know only few are necessary), but non the less, it's too much hassle. Furthermore, if an operator needs to do the same thing, then they are presented with a simple solution, the start alignment. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14808-start-alignment-asking-base-alignment-feature/#findComment-78568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Er...] Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. Either I dont understand what you are trying to say. Or you dont understand the purpouse of a start alignment. A start alignment is prefferably somethinng simple like a single point, just to locate the part so that the base alignment can be made complexand run automatic in cnc mode. We have parts where the base alignment is a best fit of points. Good luck running that base alignment manually. Or fuel pipes, total nightmare without a start alignment. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14808-start-alignment-asking-base-alignment-feature/#findComment-78570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ma...] Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. Sorry, but i got Shabu question as how measure only start align. and skip base align. measuring. For sure i use start align only when needed ( as best fit, or RPS ). Believe me, I measure forged pieces - they are really not as on drawings 🤣 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/14808-start-alignment-asking-base-alignment-feature/#findComment-78572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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