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I think most quality/programming/engineering type of people are pragmatic in thinking.
That said, there's got to be something they're not telling us.
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I'm going to get kicked off here talking non-cmm stuff but, for those who question the reaction.
H1N1 vs Coronavirus
H1N1 Influenza:
• From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010 approximately 60.8 million cases, 274,304 hospitalizations and 12,469 deaths

Coronavirus:
• The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's worst-case-scenario is that up to 210 million Americans will be infected by December. Under this forecast, 21 million people would need hospitalization and 200,000 to 1.7 million could die.
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The other thing to realize is the time frame, since no one has immunity there will be a lot of cases in a very short time frame.

They are saying something like 20% of people who have caught this needed to be hospitalized, however there are not nearly enough hospital beds or respirators to handle even fraction of that.

They pretty much know they cannot keep people from getting it. What they are trying to do is to is to spread out the time it takes so less people will need medical care at any one time.

They project anywhere between 40 to 70 percent of people will get this.

Lets say only 20 percent of people get this, and we will figure the US population is 300 million. (Its actually higher)

20 percent of 300 million is 60 million. That is 60 million that would get it if only 20% are infected.

20 percent of 60 million is 10.2 million. That is the 20% that would need to be hospitalized.

There are less than 1 million beds total in the US, and most of those are in use at any given time for other things.

The math gets scary fast. If it really is 40% that get it that would require over 20 million beds - that is over 20x the capacity that is there. When you consider there is only 100,000 ICU beds it gets even scarier. The statistics are going to come in when they are choosing which people are more likely to survive if they get a bed and which ones will need to be 'kept comfortable' because it is decided a bed wont help them anyhow.
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I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but I recently read that a Covid-19 pneumonia is different in that it can come with less typical symptoms (fever may be lower or absent, less coughing), so it grows slowly, takes longer until it's discovered and diagnosed as a pneumonia. And because of that it's much harder to treat. I saw a film about an Italian hospital where the doctors were desperate because none of their Covid pneumonia patients had recovered so far, despite the usual treatment that has proven effective in normal cases of pneumonia. 🙁
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As long as we are making sure that we are factoring in all of the opportunity cost associated with shutting the world down. I don't think we are.
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Don't take this the wrong way, but if people could stay in thier own f-ing countries, we would not have these problems..
Not that people arn't allowed to travel when it's inevitably, but just beacuse, I've never understood that one..

Globalism isn't my cup of tea I guess..

How ever, I concur to Norbert. I doubt this is comparable to the flu, don't think the people are told the truth.
Just stay safe, and God bless those who get infected and did'nt deserve it.
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Its getting pretty crazy around here, everyone is panic buying guns and I know most people don't have any sort of emergency fund. Its looking really like a lot of people are going to be out of a job or just unable to come to work due to shutdowns and school closures. Ive already had to work from home a couple days but who knows how long that will last. Scary times.
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Interesting take on the number of cases was talked about on my local podcast, and i think they came to the conclusion that you just can't believe the number of cases for your state or country are accurate, because not very many people in each state has been tested, but if you extrapolate the numbers are way up in the tens of millions of positive
Michigan 3100 tested, 1000 are positive (1 in 3) cross multiply for 10,000,000 population = 3+ million positive
New York 61000 tested 15000 (1 in 4) cross multiply for 20,000,000 population = 5+ million positive
California 13000 tested 1500 are positive (1 in 8) cross multiply for 40,000,000 population = 5 million positive

http://drewandmikepodcast.com/drew-and- ... h-19-2020/
start at 1hour 48
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We were sent emails to print out over the weekend should we be stopped stating we need to stay open and work because of Presidential Directive 21 which states: “Our commercial and defense aerospace products and services are critical to overall transportation and safety infrastructure and essential to national security as part of “critical infrastructure” … AND “critical infrastructure industries have a special responsibility in these times to continue operations.”
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Same, even though 95% of what we make is for joint replacement surgery, which is non essential and most hospitals have canceled all such surgeries.
I think we have 1 or 2 part numbers over in the molding department that are for some sort of a pump or filter.

But FYI for you crafty types, if you got a paper towel & a stapler & a couple rubber bands, then you got a mask!
Be safe my friends!

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I made it back. Got sent home for a day while we figured everything out but the government can't stop this guy. Good news is that it doesn't look like the disease is killing us but the cure might. The cure shouldn't be worse than the disease.
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I've been informed that we're classified as "essential" and will not be closing.
We support the farming industry and construction but, mostly farming.
That said, daily sales have been nothing short of as planned/good.
Farming stops and we're all in trouble. 🙄
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I too am classified essential. We make brakes for trucks and heavy machinery. So daily I get exposed to everything we are supposed to be avoiding. No spring break for me.

hope everyone is healthy, safe and has toilet paper, oops
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Honestly,Derek!
This math is very misleading.
Indead,not every human being,that gets the virus shows any symptoms of this desease.
It will never recognize that there is a virus.
Therefore the number of hospitalized people will be much smaller.
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I believe these stats are from John Hopkins. If 300 people get infected,
40% (120) will become ill, of that 40%, 20% (24) will get pneumonia, of
that 20%, 5% (1.2) will die. So, roughly 1 death in 300.
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