[Si...] Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Hi All, We are reacquiring our planner seat we once had. We will be using a Laptop for this offline purposes. Has anyone had issues with Laptops? Also, Do I have to install Full Calypso onto the laptop?? Haven't used Planner before. How does it work? Access wise. Does the Main computer have to be on to access the Planner software? \ Are there any Guides. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I use it on a base model Zeiss PC. Cheapest you can get. It can be slow at times. Molasses slow. If it works on that, it should work on a decent Laptop. Planar doesn't connect to any CMM controller. It does a fairly good job of simulating all steps as if on a real CMM. Once your used to Planar, you wont want to be without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[De...] Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I have run it on a laptop and on a desktop, either will work. The planner seat is not actually connected in any way to the physical CMM. Zeiss usually will license the planner seat using a physical CMM serial number, but other than that there is no actual association between the two. I do all my programming at work so I use a desktop rather than a laptop because I personally do not like working on laptops if it is not necessary. A laptop offers you the flexibility to program and or troubleshoot programs wherever you are, however if you never leave your desk when programming, then its probably more cost efficient (not to mention more ergonomic) to put your planner seat on a desktop. The installation of planner is the exact same as the install of regular calypso, the only difference is that the license for planner is activated on the planner seat. When using planner with simulation, you first need to use the secondary program 'stylus system creator' to create all of your existing stylus systems. Once that is done, you can build a rack on your 'machine' and load all the probes. Then you run the program like you would on the real machine. Using the slider you can control the speed to an extent and you can judge clearances so you can avoid the majority of problems you might otherwise have on the real machine. I don't know of any guides however I think people here will be pretty willing to answer questions should you have any oncce you have your seat up and running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Si...] Posted April 26, 2019 Author Share Posted April 26, 2019 SO, If the Planner seat is activated on our Desktop Computer which is the Primary for our CMM.. I can still connect via Dongle usb attached to my laptop and program, correct? We plan on using the Laptop for Planner to program while our Quality Tech runs the CMM. But also want the functionality to RUN The CMM Via the Laptop as well. (Is this possible) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[De...] Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 No. I do not believe what you are proposing is going to work. The laptop needs its own installation of Calypso, it does not connect to another installation in any way. Even if you used remote desktop or something similar to remote into the CMM computer, I do not believe that you can run two instances of Calypso on the same computer at the same time, which is what it sounds like you are thinking of doing. To re-iterate, the laptop does not connect to an existing installation, it is its own installation. The dongle is used for licensing only, it has nothing to do with communications between machines. The entire purpose of an offline seat is to program using the offline seat while using the CMM to check parts. If you put your offline seat on your CMM, then your machine will not be able to be run while you are using it to program. As to the last part, so far as I know there is no way to run the CMM from any computer but the one that is connected to it, however this may be possible using remote desktop, however I honestly do not see how helpful this would be given that you cannot load parts remotely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Si...] Posted April 26, 2019 Author Share Posted April 26, 2019 So lets assume that CMM 1 (Desktop) goes down. We have CMM 2 ( Laptop) with the dongle. Can we not just switch our communication from CMM 1 to CMM 2 so that now CMM2 can run the CMM Live? Other than that, CMM2 will be mainly used for just the Planner Offline Programing via Dongle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[De...] Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 In your configuration, your offline seat will have a tab that is setup for simulation, this is basically a tab just like you would have for your machine, but its just a simulation of a machine. You can create multiple tabs however, so you could create a secondary tab that was a duplicate of your actual machine. So long as your laptop setup has a tab on it with the CMM setup properly then yes, you could just unplug the pc and plug in the laptop and run the CMM with it. You might need to restart the control depending how careful you are as to when you disconnect / reconnect. You would need to make sure that when you connect to the machine that you were using the tab that was a duplicate of the original. Though this would all technically work, all in all I think this is a bad idea. keep in mind, the data for your rack configuration / what probe is in the head etc is all stored on the computer - not in the control. You could easily cause yourself some major headaches (and expense) if your machine picks up the wrong probe due to differences between the configuration on the laptop as opposed to the pc and crashes it into a part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Si...] Posted April 26, 2019 Author Share Posted April 26, 2019 Ok, We are getting a 2nd Calypso Lisc for the Laptop. Assuming it is a full lisc with the Planner... Is that going to work if we switch back and forth? I am trying to clarify everything as good as possible. Sorry if I sound like I am repeating myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[De...] Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Based on my experience, your planner seat will include a full license so it has the full capabilities to run your CMM if need be - I can't imagine a situation why you would want to do this .. but it should work if you did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Si...] Posted April 26, 2019 Author Share Posted April 26, 2019 The Configuration is we have all the settings in a locked down folder on the server that only the desktop and laptop can see the config files. Read access for Laptop, Write access for desktop. Then all reports in a centralized folder for viewing. The CMM gets a reservation in the DHCP server and connected directly to the network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Th...] Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Zeiss Germany uses "Dell Precision 7720" with Nvidia Quadro P3000 graphics and Windows 10 for Calypso 2018 (6.6). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[No...] Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 If you're using a dongle, you could - in theory - also connect it to a live CMM. To do that, you'd need to make the CMM dongle "known" to the laptop (includes copying of a few license files to the laptop), create a machine tab for the CMM in the settings and copy over your config from the CMM computer. Also, the network connection of the laptop would have to be configured to connect to the CMM controller. And because of that you'd need a secondary network controller or WLAN, otherwise you wouldn't be able to connect to the CMM and the network at the same time. Not really worth the hassle in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[ke...] Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Reviving an old thread. About the Planner Software, and referring to Derek's post "Zeiss usually will license the planner seat using a physical CMM serial number, but other than that there is no actual association between the two." Using one of our existing software license, if there an cost for the Planner software? Does it require it's own dongle? This is strictly off-line programming, no direct running of the CMM from the computer the Planner Software will be loaded on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[La...] Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 If I remember correctly, the Planner (offline seat) license does not include the Calypso CNC license, required to connect/function with an actual CMM. I could be wrong... but anyone with an offline seat can check this in Extras > Misc. > Licenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Sc...] Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Please sign in to view this quote. Correct, Here is a picture of the differences. The Calypso CNC license is missing from the offline seat. EDIT: I just noticed on our Zeiss Care package e-mail that the offline seat has it's own serial # that does not match the Duramax or Contura. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[ke...] Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Thank you Laura and Scott. Found out our company has the Zeiss Offline Programming software version 6.2.04 it was never utilized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[CA...] Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Hi CMM professionals, I have a big doubt to install an offline Calypso in my Laptop, only for offline development, not to remote control of CMM. How to obtain the License? our CMM was bought recently (2020). We need to buy a new one for the programmer seat or is it possible with the same? Well, I do not know if we have the dongle USB or any other, I must ask the Manager about it, but when YES it is possible for this additional installation? Sorry, so much question to our Community Thanks, Danke, Obrigado Gracias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Am...] Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Ive used it on about 3 laptops so far, with 1 of them being pretty slow. I noticed a bunch of bugs happening when used on that laptop that did not happen on the other laptops. I don't think you need anything crazy good but if the laptop is pretty under powered you might have a harder time. Like I said the sluggishness of the CAD view was not the only issue I had with the older laptop, had odd things happen with the conversion of the CAD and not being able to select certain surfaces on the model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. You need to purchase separate planner/simulation license and dongle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[CA...] Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Hello CMM Community Thanks for the information. Now we have a 90 days trial licensing, the case is, when we try to Connect in the new installation of Calypso, ever I have an error, something of SQL Server connection. Well, I do not know if is necessary to install or configure a Server in a local PC? Here the error LOG ************************************ A network-related or instance-specific error occurred while establishing a connection to SQL Server. The server was not found or was not accessible. Verify that the instance name is correct and that SQL Server is configured to allow remote connections. (provider: TCP Provider, error: 0 - The wait operation timed out.) at Zeiss.IMT.MUMCPP.SDO.TCOSystem..ctor(String ConfName, String Datapath, Boolean list) at Zeiss.IMT.MUMCPP.SDO.MSensorSystem..ctor(String groupname, String pathname, Boolean list) at Heeg.SdoProxy.Zeiss_IMT_MUMCPP_SDO_MSensorSystem_New02(SdoProxy* , return_type* vwReturnValue, Char* groupname, Char* pathname, Boolean list) ************************************* SOLVED!!! SOLVED!!! SOLVED!!! We need to START the SQL Server with SQL Server 2014 Configuration Manager. Then the connection will be OK!!! Now Problem with Stylus Qualification!!! No ways to do a Fitting position with MasterProbe??? What happen? Normalverweis we use for RDS-CAA 180 degrees with any other rotation angle, but now may be not possible, and the Ref. Sphere position with 135 and 45....and ALLES IN ORDNUNG, all OK!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[CA...] Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Hi CMM members. Well I have uninstalled all the demo or trial Calypso for the option 90 days Planner offline in order to do a clear new installation. Now I have tried 7 times to install it, an ever with the same error: "the installation of SDCOScripts for SQL Server failed...." Ufffff I don't known!!! - Too complex the installation... Well, at the end I will abort the flight...with this PC SOLVED!!! SOLVED!!! SOLVED!!! We uninstall all the SQL Server 2014 from our Windows 10, and the the Setup of Calypso was successful. Now we can prove the PLANNER trial version in full capabilities and decide for License. Best regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[CA...] Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Hello CMM's Now we got a problem with the simulator. The System stylus and the correspondent styli ares out of zone, but worse the Ruby sphere is on the space and the extension in other position. Please some indication about that!!! Here a picture. Fail.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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