[De...] Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 CALYPSO 2018 Greetings! The problem is as follows. We have many probe systems that calibrate automatically, but there are still complex probes that have to be calibrated manually. We need to include them in the program for automatic calibration, but we have a collision with a sphere. Is it possible to indicate the access points for these probes? Or is it possible to solve this problem somehow differently? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CALYPSO 2018 Приветствую! Проблема в седующем. У нас много щуповых систем которые калибруются в автоматическом режиме, но есть еще сложные щупы, которые приходится калибровать вручную. Нам необходимо включить их в программу для автоматической калибровки, но у нас происходит столкновение со сферой. Возможно ли указать точки подхода для этих щупов? Или возможно как то по другому решить эту проблему?1.jpg2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. I think you can change the orientation of calibration shpere , and do the calibration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Cl...] Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Your sketch shows the stylus not probing normal (to the correct vector) on the ref sphere. I would think that as long as the stylus system allows for physical clearance of the RS, and the initial probing point is taken at the correct vector, it should work. Have you tried a smaller RS? Ваш эскиз показывает стилус не зондирования нормального (к правильному вектору) на рефери сферы. Я думаю, что, как до тех пор, как система стилуса позволяет физический зазор RS, и начальная точка зондирования берется на правильный вектор, он должен работать. Вы пробовали меньше RS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[De...] Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 Please explain what it means "a smaller RS"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ro...] Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 In the old forum a very long time ago i had a similar problem, but i have no way of finding that post now. I have a custom machined aluminum block with a Right, Left, Front, Rear star on one end, and a single down probe on the other end. The problem was that i couldn't stop the program from wiping out the down probe (Both probes needed to be similar length because of the fixturing of the part) The "Fix" was to edit the probe angle to in your case maybe A180, B0 (straight up) and maybe calypso can figure its way around the Qual Sphere. The normal vector for a +X facing probe would be 1,0,0, but for some reason changing the vector to 0.998, 0,-0.0175 made everything work. I don't know the vector for your application, but maybe you need to manually type it in. I don't know how to mathematically figure vectors, im sure someone else could help if they knew the angles.jkljhkghgfh.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[No...] Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Are you aware of the fact that you can always include a manual calibration in a program? Calypso remembers the points you probe manually and you can also set position points, which are remembered too. So do you really need an automatic (tensor) calibration for accuracy reasons or would it suffice to repeat the manual calibration in CNC mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. I think reference sphere...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. What would be the tip number of that styli??, I think he should move it in z minus direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ro...] Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. Tip #2 in my picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ma...] Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 With the right position of the Reference Sphere and maybe the angle of the Stylus. 😃2020-03-23_09h05_52.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Gr...] Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 We have to use multiple Automatic Calibration programs. These are setup to use different reference sphere positions to accommodate various stylus positions we use. The 3mm x 75mm stylus we use has 39 different positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[He...] Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 I have worked a long time with Calypso and have yet to come across a stylus system that cannot be qualified using tensor mode. Is it only the collission during the approach that is the issue or will it not also qualify during semi automatic tensor? Semi automatic = you drive the machine with the joystick and make the first point and then the machine does the rest. Have you tried to do a manual path for the stylus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[De...] Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 Thanks to all! The problem is solved! I found where you can organize points of safe approach. Who cares, see the screenshot.1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[No...] Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. If I wouldn't need them all, I'd send you one 😃 (mind you, I only have one reference sphere...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[He...] Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. That sound like a challenge 🙂 Do you have SSC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Da...] Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. You can add movement before and after the probe calibration Attached is the Code for such a thingCapture.PNG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Da...] Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. You have not built complicated probes before it happens all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[No...] Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. I know what you have in mind! 🤣 Yes, I have SSC. But I'm in home office right now and I'm not 100% sure which of our probes need manual calibration (that is, automatic but non-tensor). I think it's a 1 mm star probe with 4 styli protruding sideways from a 11 mm extension (+/-X and +/-Z). This one always collides with the neck of our 30 mm sphere when the +Z tip is calibrated (but it's another tip that collides). I know you can restrict the angle, but that wouldn't cover enough of the tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Er...] Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[He...] Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. https://youtu.be/I0grFFAxySw?t=113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Good luck building that. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Er...] Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. It was impossible to resist 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[No...] Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. Weeeell, let's seee...if I drill another mounting hole, just about....heere....and tighten the extension juuust a tiny bit more....I should be able to squeeze the ruby tip riiiight in....DONE! Perfect! My first collision-proof stylus. 🤠 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[He...] Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. I can't imagine you even tried 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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