[Za...] Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 I need help with the profile callout for the chamfer. It's not being called back to anything. What is the best way to get an accurate result using Calypso? Thanks in advance for any help!Profile of Chamfer-.png Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16750-profile-of-chamfer-help/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Cl...] Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 I would either measure a cone with two circle paths, or maybe get a little fancy and create two 2d curves in the cone and recall those points into a free form surface. Do you have curve? Both the cone and the FFS can then be pulled into the surface profile characteristic for evaluation. With no datum reference they want only form. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16750-profile-of-chamfer-help/#findComment-93678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ch...] Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Clark is definitely correct, however I don't think you can choose "no datum reference frame" for a cone only for FFS Free Form Surface. Think of it as cylindrical for a cylinder, but for a cone instead. (conicity). Good luck, and happy measuring! Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16750-profile-of-chamfer-help/#findComment-93680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Jo...] Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2275&p=14284&hilit=cone#p14284 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16750-profile-of-chamfer-help/#findComment-93682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Jo...] Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 If you don't have Freeform or a model, would Form give you similar results ? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16750-profile-of-chamfer-help/#findComment-93684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Za...] Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 I don't have Curve Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16750-profile-of-chamfer-help/#findComment-93686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ro...] Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 I agree with Clarke, cone. Or if you have FF you can take a circular section(s) that go thru the chamfer and create some free form scans out of that. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16750-profile-of-chamfer-help/#findComment-93688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Za...] Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 I had issues with the profile of a plane and contacted one of the Application Engineers at Zeiss. He suggested that since the profile didn't have a datum reference to put the plane itself 3x for the datums. This worked for the plane very well but have not had any success with the profile of the chamfer.profile of a plane.png Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16750-profile-of-chamfer-help/#findComment-93690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Za...] Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 He said if it's a freeform feature you can just select "No Datum Reference" from the drop down. Unfortunately we do not have freeform. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16750-profile-of-chamfer-help/#findComment-93692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Cl...] Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 A possible alternative would be to use the "Form" characteristic. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16750-profile-of-chamfer-help/#findComment-93694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Cl...] Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 You could also cheat a little. Scan maybe 12 - 16 equally spaced lines up the cones 45 deg angle and report line profile for each? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16750-profile-of-chamfer-help/#findComment-93696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Jo...] Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. Wasn't there discussion about building alignment based on the feature ? That way you could use the secondary alignment option. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16750-profile-of-chamfer-help/#findComment-93698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Al...] Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Wouldn't the 45 degree angle need to be BASIC and not have a +/-1 degree tolerance for a Profile? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16750-profile-of-chamfer-help/#findComment-93700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Jo...] Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. I think it should be. It's useless anyways. The profile of .001" would limit it to about ± .3 ° with perfect roundness. If my math is correct.. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16750-profile-of-chamfer-help/#findComment-93702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Wi...] Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Size and Form.... Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16750-profile-of-chamfer-help/#findComment-93704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. I have curve option but I don't have free form surface it is always deactivated,separate licence calls for free from surface in addition to curve?? 3D curve and free form surface are same??. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16750-profile-of-chamfer-help/#findComment-93706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Gr...] Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I do not know when you purchased the license for your CMM, but when we upgraded our Planner with Curves-Free Form Surface it came as a package and I believe cost $6900.00 US. Is it possible the license is not Activated? Check this under Extras>Settings>Miscellaneous>Licenses. Here is were you can check to see if it is activated. Note you must me logged in as Master to make changes. Greg Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16750-profile-of-chamfer-help/#findComment-93708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SH...] Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. My goodness you have almost everything to your calypso,I don't have free form, simulation, navigator,planner.. Your machine is very advanced... Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16750-profile-of-chamfer-help/#findComment-93710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Is...] Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Try with points cloud, the limitation is that probably you don't have the profile characteristic available but you could report the max / min deviation. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16750-profile-of-chamfer-help/#findComment-93712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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