[Ch...] Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Can someone smarter than me tell me if this is a legit callout. If it is not, how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[He...] Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Yes it is legit. It could be instead of a simple perpendicularity but it can also be part of a simultaneous requirement depending on the rest of the drawing. 2 good videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V46bUBmlS-g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VG0bsdYVF4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ch...] Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 Ok, i've seen this with patterns and prints that have simultaneous requirements. But it is weird to me that this is the only feature to use that DRF. So how do I construct this without using perpendicularity in Calypso? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Br...] Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Henrik is right. As unnecessary as it seems in this application, a position tolerance controls Location and orientation of features of size. So In this case, because datum feature A cannot constrain any translational degrees of freedom significant to effect the location of Datum Feature B, all it can do is control the orientation. Effectively, this specific tolerance has the exact same tolerance zone as a perpendicularity tolerance would have. But like Henrik mentioned, the only difference is that it could be subject to a simultaneous requirement. Although it seems odd to me that anything else would in fact be located to a DRF [A], rather than [A|B]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Br...] Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Please sign in to view this quote. You could do a few things. You might test them out to see what works. You could do a Position tolerance to AB. You could see if you could just do a position tolerance with only A plugged in for that matter and see if it works. You can even do a best fit bolt pattern where you best fit the translational degrees of freedom on a single feature. Do a Perp tolerance too just to see which one you get the same numbers from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ch...] Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 I wanted to use AB, but the feature called out is datum B in my interpretation. Correct? Tried just constructing it in the position tolerance and no dice. Same with the best fit bore pattern. No Dice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[De...] Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 If you use Datum A for your primary then use Datum B as your secondary in a regular true position. Yes B is not actually in the callout, but so long as you make sure B is constrained to A when you make it primary it will align to A correctly and then locate based on B (while it is aligned to A) - the result is it only checking orientation of B to A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Br...] Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I had a minute to test it out. If you just do a regular position tolerance and only put datum A in as the primary datum feature leaving secondary and tertiary blank, you should get the exact same results as a perpendicularity tolerance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[An...] Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 See attached.Contribution_04_12_2019_a.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Wi...] Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Should just be perp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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