[Mi...] Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 hey guys. Today I was working on an old job that I really hated the way it was done. I deleted a bunch of stuff and rewrote it the way I wanted it to be. Everything looked good. There was a start alignment that everyone basically hated so I deleted it and turned off the start alignment. Now when I do the manual run the points are showing up way off the part and when I try to do a cnc run, it travels way off the part and faults. Is the program corrupt or is there a way to fix this? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19526-lost-my-zero/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Te...] Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Have you done a manual alignment since the change? The Start Alignment is an offset of the Base Alignment. Also make sure you run from Base Alignment not Start Alignment n the run screen. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19526-lost-my-zero/#findComment-109696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mi...] Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 Yes. I've done several manual alignments, I even recreated my base alignment. I think I messed it up when I deleted the start alignment lines. I tried to create a new start alignment but even that was off in space. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19526-lost-my-zero/#findComment-109698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ja...] Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I had a similar thing happen. It seemed to work after I saved it. Try saving the program and closing it. Then reopen. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19526-lost-my-zero/#findComment-109700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mi...] Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 I actually tried that! I was working at the machine when I did this, tomorrow morning I'm going to open the file in simulation at my desk to see if I can get it to work. Maybe saving it in simulation might set it right??? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19526-lost-my-zero/#findComment-109702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mi...] Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 Ok, I figured it out. When I deleted the content of the start alignment it defaulted to another start alignment. I turned on the start alignment and loaded the original alignment and repopulated the offsets. Everything worked fine. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19526-lost-my-zero/#findComment-109704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mi...] Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 yeeeeah... no. It isn't working. When I load it in simulator the probe is in pieces and backwards and is off in space again. I don't know how to fix it so I'm dumping it and starting over. I don't have time to try and figure it out. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19526-lost-my-zero/#findComment-109706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mi...] Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 dang, I get the feeling I'm talking to myself again, LOL! Ok, I dumped the old program and created a new one, or am creating a new on. Imported the step file and started setting it all up and I get a message when I pick a surface stating that the "normal vector will be inverted". I've never seen this note before. Could this be causing the problem? Is it a problem? It doesn't happen on any other files... I don't think? Maybe there's a problem in the model? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19526-lost-my-zero/#findComment-109708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Th...] Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 In the beginning you wrote it is an old job. Was it also made with an old version of calypso? Years ago I altered a program from version 4 without first porting it to 5. In the following test the machine ran really weird ways in the air, but not on the part where it should. Sometimes when modifying a program it is needed to run it once before. Then the system knows all the coordinates it needs. Yes, it takes some time but it is relatively safe if you are not using a 3D model. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19526-lost-my-zero/#findComment-109710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mi...] Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 It's been run and saved in the present updated version several times. I decided it was in some way corrupted and dumped it and started with a new measurement plan. That's when I started getting this new warning. I wondered if the model was somehow to blame originally and my new edits finally triggered something. eh, grasping at straws... Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19526-lost-my-zero/#findComment-109712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mi...] Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Please sign in to view this quote. I have seen this pop up on my cad model at times. Now for ME It did not change anything I was working on. I asked in the old forum about the inverted message, but I cant remember what I was told. CRS 🙄 But again for ME it changed nothing at all. It was business as usual. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19526-lost-my-zero/#findComment-109714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mi...] Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 yeah, I just found a thread that asks about it. I'm thinking it's the model. I opened the stp file in Solidworks and was going to eliminate any of the unnecessary junk in it like hardware and kintex and double walls but the file was kinda big and got pretty laggy. after it crashed on me I gave up on it. It seems to be working ok so I'll give it a test one of these days and see if it's ok. One thing I noticed on the original program. When I opened it in simulation, the probe was messed up. It was apart and some pieces were backwards??? On the new program it is fine. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19526-lost-my-zero/#findComment-109716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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