Dual units

[[An...]]

Is it possible to have dual units in piweb? Metric and english

[[DW...]]

You could use a result element to do the conversion and appropriately note it on the report?

[[Do...]]

If both pieces of information are to be displayed on the protocol, you can use a text field in PiWeb and use a condition (if ... then ... else) to check the feature attribute Unit (K2142) and perform the conversion manually.

[[An...]]

Thanks for the suggestions guys, looks like we will just have to live without it. Seems like dual units would be real easy for Zeiss to implement. 

 

One thing I did try is to use the characteristic comment with a formula to multiply by 25.4 but that wont work when running  a program because it gets ought in a loop.

[[Ja...]]

I have found a manual workaround by accident and have used it a couple times when I needed a report of the same run in both metric and inch, it's a hassle and you have to pay attention to any rounding during conversion, but it works in a pinch.

1. Run the program (doesn't matter if inch or metric) and then when the program is done running and I have printed or saved the report for the run and have NOT begun another run.
2. I then go into the Feature Settings Editor - Units - Length Unit - Set to Inch or Metric (whichever the original program wasn't) to convert the program.
3. Then go to View - click on Custom Report or Multiple Report depending on how you do your reporting and click on that. A report of the same run but in the converted units will display and you can print or save that additional report.
4. I then close out the program without saving to avoid any issues and reopen if I need to repeat the process, have additional runs and reports.

So you effectively have two reports from the same run, one in inch and one in metric, hopefully that all made sense. It's a labor intensive process and it's definitely not ideal but is faster than having to run two separate identical programs except for the unit type.

I agree it would be a nice feature for Zeiss to implement, possibly with individual tolerancing per unit of some kind to negate any potential rounding errors. We run jobs in inch but occasionally have the need to report results in metric or both inch and metric and a dual reporting system would be pretty slick.

[[Ri...]]

What exactly would you like to see? Both results on the same report or a completely separate report with whichever unit you'd like?

Let me know and I'm sure I could whip up something for you pretty quickly. (Oh let me know what version of Calypso you are in)

[[Mi...]]

Be careful with unit conversion too... If some person designed it in freedom units, then does the metric conversion at only 3 decimal places... you can't simply *25.4 everything and be done with it. 

Hopefully that's only my facility that designs metric parts in inches... then is surprised when the metric conversion isn't quite right and through stack ups of rounding errors in the assembly, end up eating a lot of their tolerances.

Due to rounding errors I have to have 2 versions of some programs, inches and mm... it's just easier than trying to make anything automatic actually work since we have a human deciding the rounding when the conversion is done.

[[An...]]

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I was thinking something on the same report, we have decided to just stick with English.  

It was a weird and annoying situation where the customer gave us two prints, one for a different op on the same part except one print was English and the other was metric. 

[[Ri...]]

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What version of Calypso are you running? I could make something pretty quickly.