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I have searched this forum and found several threads regarding how to display and what is needed in order to show the coordinates that has been used in a positional tolerance evaluation. Normally (ie. other software), when you evaluate GD&T positional tolerances, the coordinates used for the evaluation is also displayed along with the positional result. This is important since we want to know in which direction the feature is deviating and how much.

Is this not possible in Zeiss Inspect? I mean, the data for the positional evaluation must exist (since the calculation is done), but it can't be printed on the report?

From what I understand is that we need to create an alignment first, that matches that of the datum system used in the position evaluation (this is called a view alignment), select that alignment as active, create the positional evaluation and then report cartesian coordinates to the feature used in the positional evaluation? Not even then am I sure that I get the correct values I can use in order to "double check" the math because if is a cylinder, I assume that it is the worst point that is used for position calculation by Inspect and how do I find that when doing a simple X'/Y'/Z' report since that is probably reporting the centroid?

Following example:
- "A B C" indicated in bottom left corner (current active alignment?) = view alignment correct?
- A/B/C used in the positional evaluation
- Positional result is 1.09
- Reported coordinates has zero (0) deviation = the position result should also be zero
! Coordinates reported are to a circle, not the cylinder
! The worst point has probably been used for the positional evaluation - how do we display the coordinates for this specific point that has been used for the result?
? Is it possible to include the TP X/Y/Z coordinates in the same flag as the positional evaluation?

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Hi you can just evaluate the coordinates as well, then they are shown in the flag.

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You can also edit the flag-template.

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You have to choose a template that is configured for gouping results

 

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Second edit, so many different questions at once 🙂

As you stated you have to build the alignment for the position evaluation, but you dont have to have it active.

You can set the aligment in properties on the actual element.

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For Positions you can choose the alignment in the dialog itself aswell:

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As i see it, you want to know where is that maximum deviation from TP callout right?

Jochen showed that using "Result-Direction" in label template can give you XYZ deviations.
I have now only cone to play, but if you click on TP callout then in i-Inspect menu you can select Maximum deviation.
Now right click on TP callout and select all points of elements.
his will bring label, which can be used for measurement directly, or make a point from it to report XYZ

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 Nice, havent used that one before.

You also get a visual representation that way.

 

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