[Th...] Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Well, I'm still on 2020 for unrelated reasons, but I did read the KB article. I was stepping into The Opinion Zone since I have issues with the new style that aren't related to them just being different, but the rest of this thread's already covered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ch...] Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Theming ... will it ever come to Calypso ? 🤣 (Hello Kitty anyone? just kidding ...) Maybe I could downalod a new theme from Zeiss for $49.99 ? 😃 I've done some of my own theming with icons .. But, yes even the option in the software to choose an older Calypso look would be a bonus .. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Gu...] Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Interesting discussion about our customization on various icons. Maybe the customizable scheme idea is a possibility? Then everyone could design their own icons. The problem then is the comparison with the operating instructions. We have some "pros" who know how to design their own icons. In general, all software is evolving. Adjustments to the GUI are always necessary. (Icons, dialogs, input masks...) We always have the discussion between "conservative" or "modernization"? The discussion is important, but as with fashion, the question is, "Which style do I like better..." Small preview of CALYPSO 2023: The traffic light will be modernized. With that, we also need to customize a few icons and fields… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Is...] Posted February 2, 2023 Author Share Posted February 2, 2023 Please sign in to view this quote. I would prefer updates with more attention to the Software Bugs, performance and measuring posibilities instead of a "better" apparience.. The idea to customize icons is also very unnecessary. BTW. and the probe layout?, I mean was not perfect but better than nothing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Gu...] Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 We fully support this statement. Performance, new features and improvements are the main development goals. An customizable scheme is not planned. CALYPSO 2023 innovations in detail will probably be shown at the "Control Show" in May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Is...] Posted February 2, 2023 Author Share Posted February 2, 2023 Please sign in to view this quote. Then why more changes in the appearance again and when I report a Bug takes years to be solved? i.e. We submited this Bug Nummer: 307260 these days and we were informed that the solution will come in more than one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[No...] Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Please sign in to view this quote. Unicorns! Unicorns! Awwwwww! 😜 No, seriously. I'm not against a little modernization from time to time. But in an industrial application recognizability should always have priority over style. It's not by chance that this symbol hasn't changed a lot in decades: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ka...] Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 None of the answers are applicable. In my opinion, if a change is purely a look of icons, it should not be rolled out, Hexagon does that all the time, and it universally causes confusion. Uniformity is great, especially when talking an operator through a problem over the phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ro...] Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Why can't you simply choose whatever icon style you want from any of the past choices? Why get rid of any of the old icons? It's an image file. This is totally basic programming stuff. My experience has been that when software companies get to the limit of what they can change in their core programming language, they start changing the look because they need to make it look like the program is doing something new. Gotta keep the money coming in. I suspect that the reason we never see the improvements that are really needed and have been asked for for years, like simultaneous requirements, robust calculation of MMB, pattern mobility, etc is that the core "smalltalk" language is old tech and has limitations, just like any old software. They would need to start from the ground up, which they are probably avoiding like the plague. So, you get small "enhancements", but nothing of real substance. This is why customers like myself don't hold an SMA. The ROI simply isn't there. If I wait 5 years and nothing changes substantively in the program, I'm ahead of the game. My 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[No...] Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Please sign in to view this quote. Probably not only the programming language, but also because of the "old design" of the application. I always thought it was a bad decision to try and make it usable for everything (tactile, optical, CT, fringe projection, etc). Its fundamental design is just not made for this, so everything beside tactile CMMs feels a bit quirky in Calypso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 The worst icon change, in my opinion, is the change to the "Show Surfaces" icon. It used to be a box and now it's a surface. Makes sense, I guess. However, now the "Show Cad Model" icon is a big box and it draws me to it whenever I am changing from surfaces to wire-frame.Screenshot 2023-02-03 075325.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Je...] Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Please sign in to view this quote. I agree. I wonder if Zeiss could test interface changes such as these with a user group made up of programmers from different industries (not just German automotive companies) from different continents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ch...] Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 I think at this point I would gladly pay a yearly $1000 SMA just to be able to report feature control frames (with modifiers) in Calypso ... 😃 😃 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ro...] Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Please sign in to view this quote. In PCD, you assign Datum identifiers to planes, circles, cylinders, Etc, then for GD&T features you actually build a FCF, including modifyers, and it shows up on the report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Cl...] Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Please sign in to view this quote. Marketing. People like pretty, shiny objects. (Well, certain people) 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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