Part rotation

[[Dy...]]

I know how to manipulate cad models but is there a way to rotate it and have all the features move and translate with it?

[[Ju...]]

Best practices says to transform the CAD model the same way it will be on the table before assigning features to characteristics. I'm not sure if CAD Model Comparison will translate existing features, but you can try.
CAD>Cad File>CAD Model Comparison

[[Dy...]]

Right the issue is we have our accura 2 down and the part wont fit on out smaller machine so i want to stand it up or rotate it 90. its a large program and would take to long to re make it so was hoping i could just rotate the entire thing and use different probes

[[No...]]

You can - and you don't even have to change anything - except the probes.
Calypso is able to measure a part in different orientations. In the best case you don't have to change anything in the program, except assign new styli to your features. And of course you need to remeasure (not redefine!) the base alignment according to the new orientation.

Most people orient their parts so the CMM's +Z matches the part's +Z etc., but Calypso is not that restricted. You can rotate the part on the table so that maybe part +X points to CMM +Z and use the same program as long as all features are still accessible and you have assigned new styli.

It's harder to describe it than to do it.

[[Dy...]]

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So if i take my part from this to this so that my +z is now +x do a manual base align? but take my points in the correct spots it should re orientate everything else?

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[[Ja...]]

Yes it will work as far as correct styli are assigned to the features for part in the new orientation.

[[Dy...]]

Well so far so good I can confirm its working I only changed a few probes as a test but this changes everything!! 😱 😱

[[Er...]]

For us, there are too many operators who would be confused, and probe the part wrong, not to mention, machinists that would be extremely confused with their offsets, so if we need to run the part in a different orientation, we change model orientation and everything with it. It's not too difficult and doesn't take a lot of time.

1. Clear Base alignment to have nothing in it. (this uses the CMM position)
2. Create an alignment to change the orientation the direction necessary.
3. Use CAD/Modification/Cad Model Transformation to rotate the part in the correct orientation.
4. Change all feature alignments to use the base alignment.
5. Open the first feature in your list, change the base alignment to the new alignment with the Keep Position Box checked. Make sure the feature snapped to the model correctly.
6. Use the Paint tool to change the alignment for the rest of the features the same way, making sure the Keep Position Box is checked.
7. Reset all the Base alignments, and feature alignment, with the Keep Position Box not checked.
8. Update all the characteristics so the correct nominals are being used.

[[Ro...]]

Ive personally never had much luck transforming/rotating an existing program.

[[No...]]

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Pha, give them a chance to learn something new! 🤠

[[Ow...]]

There are a thousand ways to skin a cat and the cat doesn't like any of them but, another way is the flip the alignment.
It's been awhile since I did it so proceed with caution.
1st, save your program and name it for the new rotation (key here is not to accidentally screw up the original).
2nd, open up the base alignment in the new program and rename accordingly and then click the special button and choose the rotate by angle around the axis you want it at it 90°. The program coordinates and the model should rotate to the new position after you close the base alignment .I think it now ask you if you want the features to flip or keep position options?.
You'll have to update the clearance planes and choose to use different probes because when you flip it, it keeps the same probes assigned to it.
I don't believe it corrects curve nominals though so, if using curve you may have to do them manually in options.
Don't forget to re-name the base alignment before changing it.