[To...] Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 I am interested in knowing what everyone uses to clean the granite on your CMM. Also, but not part of the poll, what do you use to clean your probes? Have a great day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Da...] Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Most of the time I use Isopropyl, but sometimes I will use Starrett granite cleaner and then the alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Th...] Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Denatured alcohol is all I have access to. I'd like to have a proper cleaner like the Starrett stuff or whatever it is Zeiss sells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ow...] Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 90% (the other 10% is water) or stronger Isopropyl Alcohol on the granite and probes for 17 years. If for some reason there is a greasy/sticky substance left on the granite, I'll use something like simple green or 409 to remove it and then clean it again with 90% Isopropyl Alcohol as the others mentioned will leave a residue behind and must be removed. I was told not to use denatured alcohol because as it evaporates, it also leaves behind a residue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Je...] Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 I agree with Owen. Denatured alcohol isn't that pure and leaves behind some residue. I tend to go a little heavy on the ISO. People walk into my lab and say it smells like a frat party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[No...] Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 https://www.jfa.de/en/hcpg/p/11/clean/ Wait - is that what you mean by Uncle Carl's? 😃 Probes: I don't 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ch...] Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 We use denatured for regular cleaning and then we use JFA Clean for deep clean days. A Zeiss tech recommended JFA to me and it I really like it. It does a really good job of pulling out any dirt and oils that the denatured leaves behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted July 20, 2022 Author Share Posted July 20, 2022 Please sign in to view this quote. HA I assumed that Uncle Carl might have their own brand but I didn't know about any particular product. Now, I have learned about JFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted July 20, 2022 Author Share Posted July 20, 2022 I was always told that "some" brands denatured alcohol left more residue than others. The only thing I've seen Zeiss techs use is denatured alcohol but I don't know if this is across the board. I was also told to not use Starrett Cleaner because it contained a "waxy" element to protect the granite that was not good for cmm's. Maybe it was more about using a competitor's product...lol I find Windex does a great job. My windows are pretty clean so it can't be that bad. It's less hazardous than some others. So many options and wives tales too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ju...] Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 I'm surprised OxyClean wasn't an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ro...] Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 I use whatever is at hand, i dont think it makes 1 bit of difference what its cleaned with. Remember the granite was once removed from a quarry with dynamite and a crane and a great big dump truck, you're not gonna hurt it with cleaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ja...] Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 I use alcohol on the guides and granite surface cleaner on the rest. I don't get it from Zeiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted July 20, 2022 Author Share Posted July 20, 2022 Please sign in to view this quote. You're probably right but there are some plate inspectors out there that believe otherwise. Maybe it was Starrett marketing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 I use Isopropyl alcohol and either Red or Green Scotchbrite. The Scotchbrite is used to scrub off aluminum type buildup. Then wipe clean with lint free cloths. You can take a granite surface plate and return its color to nearly new condition in a matter of minutes. It takes me about 15 minutes to clean the entire granite surface of a 900x1800 CMM. I've been doing this for about 20 years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Da...] Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 I use starret surface plate cleaner, If it's really bad I'll use denatured alcohol as a pre cleaner. I use denatured for probe balls. Starret is good stuff , try cleaning a white Arkansas stone with whatever you think is good...then try starrets plate cleaner! its unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ro...] Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Windex for the initial cleaning to get all the major stuff. IsoClean for the second cleaning. Quarterly/6 Months/Yearly... I do a deep cleaning on the granite depending on the amount of hours on the plate. We use the Starret Waterless Cleaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ow...] Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Yes, at my age I do question my memory occasionally 🙄 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Je...] Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 The reason I use ISO is not for what it does to the granite. I use it to prevent contamination of the workpieces (medical, defense etc.), stylus systems and measurement process. On a side note, my first CMM job was on an old Zeiss Eclipse. The scales were brass. The third shift guy doused the scales with alcohol rather than dabbing them with a lint-free cloth. This caused the scales to completely delaminate 😮 . That was not a cheap fix. Dampen a cloth, not the scales! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[No...] Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Please sign in to view this quote. Recently I had my bathroom renovated and put in stoneware floor tiles. They told me to avoid cleaners containing surfactants, as they tend to build up a slippery film on the tiles over time. I don't know if this is also true for granite and cleaners like JFA Clean, but it may be the reason why Zeiss recommended to remove the JFA cleaner immediately with a dry cloth until the surface is dry. So I wouldn't entirely dismiss that "waxy" argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Er...] Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 99% isopropyl alcohol is what we buy. It is listed for first aid kits at Grainger Supply. MSC Direct sells the same stuff. I do not apply the alcohol to the CMM. I do apply it to the granite to help lift the dirt out of it. Dymon all purpose foaming cleaner gets used when the forklift "makes a deposit." 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Tr...] Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 To do a thorough clean, I start out with Starrett surface plate cleaner. If there are difficult spots, like oils or some other stain, let it "soak" for a little while. The granite is porous and the cleaner will pull the offending stain up to the surface. After some scrubbing with a lint-free wiper, and the surface dries, there will be a slightly gritty residue left from the Starrett cleaner. To get rid of that residue, I use denatured alcohol. After all that, IMHO, the surface is clean! Hope this helps! 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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