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Noticed the same thing, took me a nice few minutes to figure out what's going on.

I was hired 13 years ago as a CMM programmer. Over-time we have gone to using Keyence's for most (90+%) of our products. I use Calypso infrequently. Don't really feel like programmer anymore. At least not for CMM's.

On a side note, I've just encountered an existing program that measures runout in a way that I am not sure is correct. Imagine if you will, a "T" shaped part loaded vertically into a rotary table. The arms of the "T" are measured using a stylus facing in the -X axis with a 180º rotation added to measure the opposing side. My gut tells me this is not the appropriate way to evaluate runout as we are now inspecting the part in a different orientation when measuring the second arm (though the arms are technically in the same position in reference to the stylus when being measured). Thoughts?

It should have a serial number attached to it. I'd ask for that and then reach out to Zeiss to confirm.

@Okan Tunçel The problem with measuring each individually with no Datums is the scallops are not being checked to each other, so if you take your worst scallop of the 59 done individually that profile measurement will be better than if you measure them all together with no Datums.

Mr. Mckay, I appreciate for the explanation. Yes, that is a pattern feature and as you mentioned we select all 59x Scallops and create the Surface Profile element but we obtain 59x actual values for each segment. If I imagine to obtain only 1 result for each segment in the Composite Profile inquiry then I think I would not determine which Scallop is Non-Conforming if I see a reject situation and can't navigate the part for a rework if possible. Maybe I got it wrong if you mean the same. I got that checking "Use Composite Tolerance" box is not affecting since there is no Datum for the FRTZF for the lower segment. It is correct and we'll have a try for such scenarios. Many thanks and best regards.

Mr. Schult, I thank you so much for your swift response. I got that I have to split the tolerance definition for all segments of composite inquiry. And I have to re-generate an element for each segment. If so, would you say that we shall check "Use Composite Tolerance" box for the 1st segment too? I would think I shall not check for the first segment but yes for lower ones. Best regards.

The first thing I would look at is your evaluation settings. Your Cylinder could be switching to functional Datum, so OTE (min circumscribed on an OD). The 3d Line would pull from the feature setting of the circles you are recalling from.

Short story - A guy on facebook says he sells offline dongle for Calypso 2023 My question is is there any way tho check the authenticity, before purchasing ?

Web part is only connection to ATOS device ( it's IP ) so it should'n trigger anything. I saw webserver is running at localhost:PORT and for device control you would have IP for device ( not sure how ATOS 3 is with this ) Our ATOS 5 is connected to PC via 10GBps optical lan card - how is that on ATOS 3?

It depends on drawing - if you have drawn datum A anywhere on cylinder and dimension, then it's a cylinder. If it would be exactly on dimension line ( at number ) then it would be a circle. But difference in using a 3d line and a cylinder can be by how you have created that 3d line.

I too am curious about this topic as I work with very similar parts. Hopefully one of the forum gurus can chime in here. Couple of questions: Is your 3d line being constructed using recall or recall feature points? What is the length of the generated line? Recall: Returns the reference point(s) (the origin of the local feature alignment) of one or more features. I believe in this case it would evaluate each level of the cylinder as LSQ to derive a center point. A 3d line would then be constructed through those three points. Recall one feature: Returns the entire feature. This method should utilize all points taken and try to make a best fit line among all points in the feature. Recall feature points: Returns individual points, individual paths, specific areas (specified in coordinates) or all points of one of more features or one file. In this case, I would suspect the result to be the same as recalling the singular feature unless you decided to skip sections of the cylinder. As far as I understand, 3d lines would be generated off of your point selection and would not inherit any filters/outliers that would have been used on the Datum. The Datum axis is extended infinitely, however, the 3d line length can be set manually.

preferences -> templates -> calibration objects This allowed me to import the correct calibration file. Will try this very soon. I'm pretty confident we have the correct plate for our lenses and measuring volume. The web is an issue for us at the moment. It's a windows 7 computer and our IT department will only allow Windows 11 and Windows 10 devices with extended support to connect to our network or the web. They tend to make lots of special exceptions for me and we're working on a solution. I'd like to upgrade to Zeiss Inspect using a new version of windows, but that a future project. I feel like I'll run into all sorts of compatibility issues once I try to upgrade the computer and software.

Hello Chad, can you load the files into the preferences -> templates -> calibration objects? Should appear in that dialog afterwards.

Hello Tom, there might be some mesh errors or gaps that prevent the function from creating the automatic surface. There are some tools in the mesh editing workspace that might help to prepare the mesh for the autosurfacing like close holes. If it's still not possible to construct the surface, please contact your local support with the mesh so we can analyze it. I understand that the error is not that helpful. I'll pass that on as feedback to the development. Nanno

Hallo, aus welcher Version stammt die alte Vorlage? Vielleicht klappt es, wenn man ein Projekt mit der alten Vorlage in der 2023 öffnet und neu abspeichert. Bei den Grauwert-Features wurden die Parameter nach und nach erweitert/verändert, vielleicht sind die Versionen auch schlicht nicht kompatibel und man müsste die Einstellungen händisch in der neuen Version vornehmen. Nanno

On our Atos5 you are loading calibration files via web page ( go to setup measuring setup via help / System analysis ) and on ATOS device is a button for web service. Also before calibration you should setup / ensure you have selected correct measuring volume. Then it should use only correct calibration plane with dots. For MV it should be a specific one. Can you click on Edit button?

Hello everyone, We have identified that as soon as the IT network cable is disconnected, everything works normally. We still don’t know the exact root cause, but I hope our IT colleagues will be able to resolve the issue soon. In any case, the problem is not related to the machine or the software. Thank you all for your help and recommendations. Kind regards, Nikola

Well - on our Calypso 7.8 ( 2024 ) it can not make MMB on those symmetry planes, but using GD&T it's possible to use that.

What probehead are you utilizing? If it is an xxt system, changing the angular coverage will not have the desired effect, your only option would be to acquire a smaller aphere so that the probe does not hit.

Hallo zusammen, ich habe mal eine Frage zum Paletten Optimizer. Ich habe jetzt alles soweit das er mir mit einem Taster alles messen tut, bevor er den anderen Taster sich holt. Wie erstelle ich denn jetzt eine Position für jeden Taster einzeln die er anfahren soll ? Zurzeit habe ich eine CNC-Ende Position definiert die der Taster mir jetzt ständig anfährt. Der soll eigentlich nur angefahren werden nachdem er mir im AutoRun alle 4 Werkstücke gemessen hat. Ich hoffe ich habe das alles soweit richtig und verständlich erklärt 😊. Calypso 2022 Bedanke mich herzlich Vorab !

get something like a starlink hotspot. Traceability is a must however it's done, photos are a good source of truth. New versions of metrology software : try to retest previous data to see if it gives you same results. Recommend always store data locally (.zmp files are encrypted) in separated folders, and sync that folder to the cloud if needed - this is where some methods are better than others, constant syncing and pulling. I believe there are some ISO specs etc on how to store and manage data, and I'm sure there are 3rd party solutions. pretty general response but hope it helps.

um yeah, chat gpt, lol, they can probably make an excel for you to use any time ...

see previous message by Martin Jánský and another by Zen Cat; in normal situation this is not nessecery to lock the rotation with such part, but in your case it could either solution the problem or going further in analys