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@BlueSky Assuming you saved the measurements and they included the features you want the XYZ data from, tick the XYZ coordinates box for each feature, then do a subsequent evaluation of multiple measurements (under the Plan menu drop down).
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Both Machines came from Zeiss yes, they also both have the separate drive and the files like screenshot below, I am not sure what exactly has stopped it though, likely IT. No Acronis file on the desktop and again... all we seem to have on both computers is this cyber protect monitor that doesn't seem to like doing much of anything. @Kyle Johnson I appreciate your response. I'll poke around with it myself more /one day/.
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I was facing similar thing on new pc with Calypso 24 - in autorun we had stored pallet programs with headers prefilled - but on new Calypso this was overriden by this "default" value. Also i miss changing comboboxes - on older versions you could focus header and by clicking on keyboard arrows you could change it's value - now it's opening that list. It's a little annoying, but we can live with that 😄
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This was the solution. The userfields.ini had a defaultValue=XXXXX. And removing the XXXXX part of it made it work. The confusing part that made it hard to figure out was that every other calypso 2024 installation on the other machines did not act like this (they have default values) but this one new computer needed them blank.
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Coordinate System Placement: Where (or how)
[Ma...] replied to [Ra...] 's topic in General Discussion
First of all - i would do some basic determination how much are holes variable in position. For alignment - i would use start alignment for manual location. For base alignment - i would use sperical probe, but touching by shaft ( like using cylindrical ) just around and then touch in middle. Then using 9 points for cylinder ( 3 circular paths ). If thickness of material with combination of differences in radius can matter to correct scan, then scan area around to obtain correct origin of circle/cylinder ( depending on scan path ) -
Coordinate System Placement: Where (or how)
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Thank you, I do have a 3 cad file. -
Measuring Position of a plane to a plane when both are angle opposite of each other?
[Ke...] replied to [Ma...] 's topic in General
Are you sure that those are not short parallel planes, just below Datum D? If not, I would probably create an intersection to Datum D, or a theoretical plane at a specific distance. -
I think on Calypso it's working like what is first it's taking whatever is possible. Exceptions are for points and circles - they should not give vectors - only position. I like it in Zeiss Inspect, where you see result. Also Inspect is much advanced about coordinate systems. It allows you to select multiple features to act like pattern and you can also select if you want from it only direction or point also. So here is an example: Primary: circle -> origin Secondary: line -> rotational axis Tertiary: plane -> stopping rotation
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I'm afraid I can't find one, at least not one that I feel comfortable sending out since we don't make it. If you want a simple step by step breakdown, you go through this process for all 6 degrees of freedom possible in a rigid object (i.e. translation and rotation in X, Y and Z): 1. Can - Is the datum physically capable of constraining this degree of freedom? For instance, a plane with the axis in the Z direction can stop translation in the Z, but it CANNOT stop translation in either the X or Y (think of putting that plane on the granite of the CMM, you can't push it further in the Z, but you can slide it in the X and Y as much as you like). Likewise, a cylinder or circle in Z axis can stop translation in the X and Y, but not in the Z (think of putting a pin in the feature). 2. May - Is there a higher priority datum already constraining that degree of freedom? If two datums pass step 1, then the one that comes earliest in the datum structure of the callout gets priority (that's why its primary, secondary and then tertiary). 3. Must - If the datum fulfills the requirements in step 1 and 2, then this datum MUST control that degree of freedom. Hopefully this helps, at least a little. I know it isn't the PDF you were looking for, but in terms of concise explanations, hopefully that gets the job done.
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@Matthew S Can you share a snippet of a drawing or elaborate? Without knowing what type of features A, B, and C are this question is hard/impossible to answer.
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Measuring Position of a plane to a plane when both are angle opposite of each other?
[Ma...] posted a topic in General
I am working on and injected molded part and it calls out two planes both slanted away from each other at an 8 degree angle, how do I set this up for a solid inline parallel plane tolerance zone? -
Coordinate System Placement: Where (or how)
[DW...] replied to [Ra...] 's topic in General Discussion
@Ramiro Hernandez If you don't have a 3d file available, you are more than likely going to need to have one made from a drawing. The next step would be to use the CAD file to create a reference point system (RPS) alignment. This is a common alignment system used in the auto industry for things like body panels that lack standard geometries. There are threads on here about RPS alignments in Calypso. I haven't used RPS alignments all that much in Calypso, but I do remember that looping the RPS alignment at least 3X is important. Hopefully someone with more RPS alignment experience chimes in. Best of luck sir. -
Ok, I realize this is probably a simple one but why can't you call-out TP of Datum C using FCF ABC? I know you can't but how is the part fully constrained if its only called back to AB?
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I have asked the German support team about this before and Martin is correct. It is not configurable except by changing the internal names (and even then, if you use predefined fields, that might throw you off).
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I've heard this rule several times but I can't find the definition of it anywhere and I was wondering if anyone has a PDF or something I can reference to use it.
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Honestly the easiest method would probably be make the relevant circles and then recall the data in that relevant area into them and use caliper distance on those. The other "simpler" way would be to use this caliper distance than use a result element to subtract out half of the length from both cylinders, like how we used to do it before the caliper distance characteristic. There are a couple other methods I can think of, but they would be a bit more involved than either of those solutions and would give pretty close to the same result regardless.
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Another thing to note, if these are header fields you made and have defaults set in there, Calypso will reset it to the defaults after every run, at least in newer versions. If I recall correctly, this was a requested change made a few years back.
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Hallo Andreas, bei der automatischen Positionserzeugung (Smart Teach) lässt sich die Achse nicht einfach sperren. Manuell könntest Du Positionen erstellen, die nur den Roboter nutzen. Drehtisch und Roboter werden zeitgleich verfahren, außer es ist ein Scancobot. Sonst melde dich bitte beim Support und wir können schauen, ob ggfs. eine Anpassung am VMR helfen würde. Gruß Nanno
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Hello, hopefully this is a simple question. I want the distance between the inner edges of the slots. When I use caliper distance, it only gives me the option of center to center. I think I can do a result element with a formula to take the center to center distance and subtract half of each slot length, but is there a simpler way?
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Hello everyone, I am writing to request your expert assistance regarding a complex metrology challenge. My experience has primarily involved programming inspection routines for standard rectangular or square components. However, I am now tasked with a part that presents a higher level of alignment complexity due to its geometry. Our current customer requirement is to accurately inspect specific inner radii and several hole locations. I am seeking confirmation on the best approach for establishing the coordinate system alignment for this specific component geometry. I have included an images of the part showing the customer-specified positioning. If you were tasked with creating the measurement program, how would you approach the alignment? Specifically, I would greatly appreciate guidance on the following points: Coordinate System Placement: Where (or how) is the most effective place to establish the Coordinate System Origin ($X, Y, Z = 0, 0, 0$) to facilitate the inspection of the required features? Alignment Features: Which specific geometric features on the part (e.g., planes, cylinders, points) would you use to define the primary, secondary, and tertiary axes of the alignment? Any feedback, suggestions, or ideas regarding the alignment methodology would be highly beneficial to me. Thank you very much for your time and expertise. Sincerely
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Hello all, Does anyone know how to pull x,y coordinates from previously ran parts that had a change in the program? I have results to file set to 999999 and tried loading in measured points, but there was a change to the program about a month prior after the parts were ran. These parts take a little while to run so any help would be appreciated, thanks!
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If you save your programs on a network then its a good idea to save your actuals locally. Otherwise, you run into header issues when running the same program on two cmm's.
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As far as i know this wasn't sortable and still is not. If it's not depending on order written in that file, then you can not change order. What you can try out is using all parameters as user defined with naming like u_1export, u_2worder naming scheme.
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C2018: can I have Measurement Plan on a server instead of a particular PC drive?
[Ri...] replied to [Lu...] 's topic in General
Very interesting comments about running the same program from a network drive. As long as the actuals are being stored locally, I've never heard of any issues. This was the whole purpose of software like the legacy Zeiss MCC, and now the new Connected Quality. -
