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Surelly in video those steps: Prealignment Creation of points on CAD model Using them as RPS After element creation you have to set measuring principle - unless you have created element via selection on mesh - but that way you would have only green elements ( not blue ) Also you can have disabled automatic refresh so you would need to recalculate manually to see changes.

You threw me there for a minute – had to recheck the standard. The simultaneous requirement does apply to the top tier regardless of datum structure. I see your point though, how effective it is with all 6 DOF constrained… One thing I had forgotten though is that the bottom tier doesn’t have to be simultaneous unless it’s specifically called out. Still didn’t help the cryptic message though. Because you’re not having trouble means it must be something I’m doing. Haven’t had that problem in other 8.0 programs.

OK no problem. Then if you can i would go the same route as Chris suggested - curves are helpfull in this case.

Update Things I've tried so far include: 1. Create a pattern of the group - Rotational pattern for scallop: This creates a pattern for each point, however, Calypso sets the run order to measure all point 1's around the part followed by point 2, etc. Even using the optimal navigation tool, the set order still ends up the same. 2. Copy the points - Copying the points into a new group and assigning them to a new rotated alignment (rotary table activated). The graphic shows the points are moved to the right location, however, the rotary table is not moving to keep the position in X+. I've tried the "keep position" option and re-assigning to the base alignment which has the probe measure in the same location, albeit the rotary as well.

How would you do it if you had tooling balls?

You can put in a programable stop and take the part out of the fixture and then measure on the datum locators.

Has anyone ever encountered a scenario where you have a CMM fixture that locates the part on the physical datums and has tooling balls located on the fixture for CMM pickup? In this situation how do you program the part so that it aligns properly and can provide measurements that correlate back to the required datums if you are not able to physically probe the actual datum features? Secondly, has anyone encountered a situation where the CMM fixture located on the physical datums, preventing actual probing, and it did not have tooling balls for CMM pickup? How do you program the part from this setup? Lastly, is there any literature out there that is available that helps describe and provide detailed steps on how to develop CMM programs where you have to use tooling balls for part alignment and measurement?

I would also like to see the step-by-step feature in the script editor available again.

Darum mit drei Ebenen einen Schnittpunkt erstellen Notfalls mit Formel die verschieben? Warum ist das nicht in der Mitte? Kannst du einen Screenshot vom Modell machen "Ausschnitt" wie ich oben? Ganz falsch ist dein vorgehen nicht.

Hallo Christian, wir Tasten die 6° Ebene ja an. Wir hatten eine Theoretische Ebene erstellt, die dann die 6° Fläche über Schnittpunkt ausgewertet. Dabei wurde aber festgestellt, das der Schnitt nicht exakt in der Mitte liegt. Ich kann leider kein Detail von der Zeichnung anbieten. Sorry Da ich jetzt ja mit einer Tastkugel von 3 mm antaste, müsste ich ja Lt. meiner Berechnung sin(5°) ergibt 0.105 gerundet , und das dann mal den Radius des Tasters in meinem Fall 1.5 * 0.105 und das ergibt dann 0.1567 ,um diesen Wert müsste ich jetzt den X wert in x+ Verschieben, das er mir am Berührpunkt Antastet. Deshalb meine Formel im Punkt bei Nx, da wird dann beim Antasten automatisch um diesen wert Verschoben. Hoffe es stimmt so was ich da gerade von mir gebe.

Hi Elyes, are CAD and mesh aligned and the planes have a measuring principle assigned? There is a short tutorial on youtube: Nanno

Unfortunately, I can't share the configuration, its TSNS. (Top Secret Ninja Sh*t).

Hallo Jörg, Mit deiner gemessenen Ebene6° und zwei theoretische Ebenen unter den richtigen Winkel und Position einen Schnitt erstellen:

Hallo Sven, ich habe den Raumpunkte schon ausprobiert, und er korrigiert mir die Werte zwar von den Vektoren, aber er berücksichtigt nicht die X Verschiebung wo ich beachten muss da er ja seitlich antastet. Und das ist nicht das Zentrum meines Kolben. Also X und Y null. Das beste Ergebnis kam beim Berührpunkt heraus in Verbindung mit der Formel. Habe es eben noch mal getestet. Danke aber für dein Hinweis

Hallo Jörg, hast du mal den Raumpunkt versucht? Einfach deinen Punkt öffnen über Auswertung auf Raumpunkt stellen und dann mit OK schließen. Danach die Schaltfläche Normalenmessung ausführen machen. Das KMG macht dann drei Punkte um den Vektor Lotrecht zur Fläche zu machen.

Hello, I'm currently comparing a CAD file and a mesh, and when I try to create datums points, I click on different planes on my CAD, but they all show up as "not computed" Do you know why? How can I fix this? In all the videos I've watched, no one seems to have this problem

Hi Ronnie, please contact your local support (see Links -> Contact at the top of the forum) with your license information. The license needs to be reset so you can activate it on a new device. Nanno

Folgendes Problem, ich habe einen Kolben, und auf dem Kolben ist eine Schräge von 6° Lt. Zeichnung. Jetzt habe ich ein Maß das ich messen muss und das ist 55.95. Auf der schrägen Fläche genau im Zentrum, liegt eine Kugel mit dem Ø12 auf das sich dass Maß Tangential 55.95 bezieht. Meine Vorgehensweise ist, ich mache einen Punkt_auf_Ebene6° ( Berührpunkt ,damit er die Radius Korrektur beachtet ) mit eine 3 Tastkugel. Solange ich den Angetasteten punkt offen lasse, stimmt der Vektor. Schließe ich den Punkt, und öffne ihn wieder, so ist der Vektor nicht mehr Rechtwinklig zur schrägen Fläche. Jetzt hole ich mir von der Angetasteten Ebene6° den Vektor Nx über die Formel ( getActual("Ebene6°").nx ) und trage das dann als Formel bei meinem Punkt_auf_Ebene6° bei Vektor Nx ein, und schließe den Punkt, damit er die Werte dann übernimmt. Beim erneuten öffnen des Punkt_auf_Ebene6° steht dann beim Vektor Nx 0.105 und beim Vektor Nz -0.994 drin. Er korrigiert mir dann beim erneuten antasten den X wert in X+ 0.201. Die Punkt_auf_Ebene6° rufe ich nochmal zurück, damit ich dann auf die Wert zugreifen kann. Die Auswertung mache ich dann über ein Resultatselement. Unten sind Bilder Jetzt meine Frage: ist das soweit richtig, oder falsch. Nach meinem antasten bekomme ich einen Wert von 55.970 heraus. Ohne diese Formel waren ca. 56.035 Hoffe ich habe es halbwegs Verständlich erklärt. Danke schon mal im Voraus

Hello, Is it possible to hide table rows which are based on the calculated value? I want to show only rows which have 1.000 (green rect), the rest with 0.000 (red cross) should be hidden. I use advanced filter by expression and I use the name for this column "filtr" but it doesn't work: ${Equal(Value("filtr"), 1)} Filtering by characteristisc within or out of tolerance works. I also created my own variable (filter) and changed 1.000 with 'yes' and 0.000 with 'no' and use the expression: ${List.Contains(filter, "yes")} also doesn't work.

I haven't tested, but you might be able to do it with inspection_post_load_pcm.txt external PCM file (no PCM license required). Check Calypso help (F1), search for Reference: Names of external PCM files

Hi Rodrigo, i don`t think this will work much better than it does atm. Just not enough points on the radius with the MV170. Measurement uncertainty on partial radius that small is very high anyway. "We suspect that during polygonization, the software may be filtering or simplifying some of the scan data, especially in areas with sharp transitions or thin walls. We will review the polygonization settings to preserve more detail." Depending on the angle to the surface the polygons get longer which leads to loosing some details, which is also described here: https://techguide.zeiss.com/en/zeiss-inspect-2025/article/dlg_measurement_parameters_userdefined.html You could try reducing the max angle that is used in the aquisition settings, but i doubt that will do much due to not enough points on the small radius with this MV. "If you want to display the details on the surface exactly, you can reduce the angle up to 60°."

point of intersection vs line of projection

Try as I might, I cannot seem to get my group to pattern properly. My goal is to measure the teeth around the OD of a part using a rotary table. Currently, the program is set to measure the left flank, right flank and depth in a pattern (i.e. it measures left flank of tooth one then left flank tooth two and so on then after all left flanks are done it measures right flanks). What I would like to do is capture all relevant features of each tooth before each rotation. In my mind this would be more efficient as I can use subclearance planes instead of the full clearance cube in the pattern. I've created additional alignments for each section and activated rotary table, but the part in simulation does not rotate and I receive collision errors as a result. I'm sure I am missing some minor detail to get this to work. Thoughts?

@TIM MCKAY I honestly don't know how many of these things are still out there, operationally. Maybe one day a new user will join and there will be three of us! 🤣

Hello, I have added inspection post load batch files to each main Zeiss program folder that automatically opens the setup instructions when the main program file first loads in the main Calypso software. Unfortunately, this does not work when using Autorun. When using a multiple station pallet, it extremely important to have the instructions open right away in order to assist the operator in loading the parts to be measured correctly into each pallet location, and to be able to X out any pallet locations that will not have a part loaded. Currently with Autorun, the setup instructions look to open only with the "Force measurement run information at CNC start" box checked in the Measurement Plan Definition. With the box checked, it requires the Run icon to be clicked by the operator for the instructions to load and open. The setup instructions will load and open automatically after Run is clicked, but that is too late as it now requires the operator to perform extra steps that should not be needed. The main issue I see is with the CNC Run Stopped screen that opens when Run is clicked: This screen being open blocks access to turn on/off the pallet locations. The only way to get back to the pallet is to Cancel Run, which causes the stoplight to turn red. This in turn forces the operator to have to reset the stoplight to green in order to continue. While it is good that the setup instructions are now open and the operator can now follow these to load the parts into the pallet locations (and turn off any location not used), it requires needing to again click the Run icon, have the CNC Run Stopped screen pop up again, then click Continue Run to finally bring up the input parameter screen for the active pallet locations and get the program to actually start measuring parts. This should not have to be so complicated just to get setup instructions to load right away when the Autorun file is loaded. I have searched through this forum for a workaround but have been unsuccessful. The only hints I have found are tied to PCM, which I do not have. I need setup instructions to load right away when the Autorun file first loads. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.