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Caitlin, I can manually execute the Characteristics, and they work fine. But when I try to run the entire Measurement Plan, only the Base Alignment features run, and Characteristics the reference any of the 3 features used in the Base Alignment. Ken Quast 3-D CNC

Ken, are the characteristics all set up correctly? Only features with characteristics will run, so I am wondering if the characteristics are all set up and have the right features pulled in?

More specifics are likely needed. The Calypso software crashes? Or the entire computer blue screens? Does an error message pop up at all?

Snippet from the print, initially I read this as two separate instructions. Now I am leaning on the Note 9 is a construct of how Flag Note 17 is applied where applicable while Note 9 may encompass any feature on the part generated under the instruction. Note 9 is a general note falling under the initial heading above the notes "Unless Otherwise Specified". Note 17 is a flag note.

Maybe I should have included this note. 🫤 I think Note 9 applies to Note 17.

First draw back I see that you can't rename the PMI entities prior to creation. Zeiss should add a dialog box to enter the characteristic name prior to creating the characteristic. The pmiData.pmi file appears to be an xml file. I can edit the PMI file and rename characteristic names, not sure of the effect on tolerances and related features/characteristics yet. Don't mind my ramblings, I am searching for methods of characteristic creation that follows my characteristic naming scheme.

If the surface texture has not been applied to the part yet, then I would ignore the note entirely. I'm assuming this note is to control surfaces that get powder coating / paint, so it is an N/A situation if the inspection is being performed prior to coatings.

I have written or edited well over 100 measurement plans in Calypso 2023, and have never run into this issue before. I have 2 measurement plans that I created on my offline system. All features were created off of a solid model, with the MasterProbe being used as the probe. The programs were then loaded onto my Online machine, and the Stylus Systems were changed to ones that I actually run on the machine. Today, when I tried testing these 2 programs, they would complete the first 3 features, which complete my Base Alignment. No additional features would run, however, I can manually execute all of the feature tests, and the characteristics will update, but my Multiple Report will not update. Any suggests on how to correct this issue? Ken Quast 3-D CNC Hutchinson, Mn.

Recently we have encountered a new issue with our Calypso system. After running the measurement plan the computer will crash upon attempting to pull up the report. Has anyone encountered this problem before or have tips for fixing it?

Make a backup, but you can just delete the inspset file inside of the measurement plan folder. You can also manually edit the inspset file and remove everything inside of "#parameters:" If you delete the file, it will also reset things that you might have had setup, mainly things regarding the file output and header parameters.

Planes can be filtered and efficiently outlier eliminated, Free-forms cannot. I suspect that is the difference you are seeing. You can test this by looking at the flatness with both the filter and outlier elimination turned off.

No STEP242 version available, but you can use the cadcube_PMI-named.sat file.

I am a bit new to freeform. (read the book, havent taken the training). When evaluating a plane vs. a Freeform Surface with the exact same plane points recalled. I am getting different values. the difference is small but important in my measurement. I am having a hard time wrapping my head around why they would show different FORM, sigma, and min/max point. What about freeform seeing a flat surface makes it calculate differently than the plane feature calculating a plane? Why are sigma values different? Is one giving me the "sigma of a plane" and the other giving me the "sigma of an arbitrary point cloud"?

Hello All, I want to mention on here for those of you downloading and installing the 8.0.1205 Patch, that a handful of CALYPSO users have noticed that during installation, the BfexService failed to install. Screenshot below of an example. The cause appears to be that Bfex is already installed, and simply fails to install a 2nd time. BfexService is only important if you have a LineScan. For users who do not have a LineScan, you can simply click Yes, and carry on with the installation without worry. If you do have a LineScan, I recommend to start the Bfex installation ahead of the CALYPSO installation by hand with admin rights out of the ISSetupprerequisities folder within the CALYPSO Installation files.

The biggest problems I have with MBD is that you're relying on someone else to put the correct callouts on the model and you usually have to modify any auto-created feature strategies anyway. But then it's been a while since I've looked back into the technology.

Pretty sure this is what the issue is. Calypso wants to attach the measured points to the nominal geometry but since the center of actual hole is closer to one edge you get this kidney bean looking display. If you move the nominal geometry to match the measured you should see the points display correctly. You can see it in simulation as well, make a hole, simulate the data then move the nominal geometry around and the watch the display bend the points around.

Hello, I would start with the tech guide on position checks, if you have not already done so. https://techguide.zeiss.com/en/zeiss-inspect-2026/article/cmd_inspection_check_position.html Tolerated element You can choose whether you want to use an Extracted surface or an Associated element. Extracted surface If you use this option, the software computes the material requirement based on the envelope of the element. Associated element If you use this option, the software computes the material requirement based on the derived element, for example: Center axis Center plane Center line Center point This option enables you to use bonus tolerances. In the bonus tolerance concept, parts of dimensional tolerances that are not used are applied as a bonus. The computation of the bonus tolerance is a method used in the ASME standard. Using bonus tolerances therefore does not conform to the ISO standard. To get results that conform to the standard, you must choose ASME Y14.5 in the drop-down list under Standard.

I believe I was able to play around with PMI on the Zeiss Cad Cube model if you have that.

Thank you for the direction Lucas. It appears that the measurement plan was written with the PCM license, but the machine I am using does not. Is there a simple way to remove all PCM features?

Hi Christian, It is probably in this menu:

Hello everyone, could someone please explain the difference between an extracted surface and an associated element in an MMR condition? I’m trying to apply an MMR condition to a cylindrical hole, but I’m not sure which option I should choose. It would also be great if you could show how you create it yourselves. Thank you very much for any opinions and help.

Hallo Sven Unter folgende Link ist dieses problem gelöst worden. Musst einen Eintrag im qdasconv.con Datei machen. Gruss

Hello, I received a measurement plan from another manufacturing site, and when running the plan, I am met with the following error message at the end of the run. The CNC is disabled and the PIWeb report will not print. Where do I access PostSettings in Calypso2025 so I can change this file path? There is no X Drive mapped to this PC.

Hi Richard, There is a PMI eLearning available. Learning Content: Identify basic requirements needed to create a PMI measurement plan Create measurement plans using PMI in ZEISS CALYPSO. Apply dimensional, form and location tolerances on a PMI program LINK

We may be getting into using PMI (Model Based Definition). Is anyone using this? Is there a STEP AP242 model available for training? Pros Cons Does Zeiss offer training?