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Hi all, We just received our Zeiss Care Agreement for Calibration of our two systems on site as well as renewal of the SMA for four dongles. Two belong to the CMM's and two are offline seats. I wanted to run this by anyone here to see if I could get help before pushing back on Zeiss about any of this. I think everything except for what is colored in ORANGE I understand. In Column B - What is the I++ DME Server charge for $2950? In Column H - We don't use Free Form so I think we can remove this. What is the dxf/dwg IN? We have no problem importing CAD files (which are usually step or acis). In Column K - Do we need the PiWeb Report +? We only use the standard reporting templates. Nothing special. Everything we do on our Contura is the same for the Duramax, so I think we should be good. Thanks for your input!

First of all the element is named bottom right and the position top right ... If your engineering wants to see the postion without mmc, than i would create another check for it without mmc active and report both. For calypso/Piweb details keep to the post from Richard or Andy. I dont work with either.

Initially I though I had to keep the Position denoted with .(M) So should I remove that and leave the Position without .M instead Which one should I remove. Because Engineers go by .08 Tolerance and want to know the value compared to .08

Sounds as if this is the same issue I was having when running 'Single Char.' and 'Executing'. Turning off "End Park Position" works. Something to do with ending with a different probe than the saved park pos.

The naming seemed inconsistend to me compared to the above 🤔

Hello Jochen Thank you so much for you detailed explanation. Wow. I did not realize the Calypso actually did that Math automatically. So that where all these values: 0.2450 and 0.2458 come from. The Names: Top Left and Bottom right indicate the threaded holes on this metal part. they are M5x0.8-6G Through ALL

1. Create a plane. 2. Create a flatness Double-click the result. A window will open on the right side. Display. Enable color display.

MMC changes the tolerance if there is "wiggle room" because the maximum material state is not reached. Meaning biggest allowed inner circle for example or smallest allowed outer circle. In you picture i cant really tell if this is calculated right. There is a mix up of bottom and top right. and i got no clue what you are actually measuring here (inner outer whatever) Lets say top left is an inner element meaning there is way less material than maximal allowed, you could in theorie (although it is nio anyway) add that to your 0,08 for the position. You take the max material condition which is nominal-Tolerance = 4,0491-0,05 =3,9991; Actual- mmc = additon --> 4,1642-3,9991=0,1651; add this to your position tolerance 0,08+0,1651 = 0,2451 Ok i guessed right the numbers add up 🙂

Should i just create a ticket from the portal online? The only issue i'm having now is I can't install the latest privacy update, or any other updates

Hello Andy. I am US based.

i went down a rabbit hole and I really do not know why (kind of do with all the feed back) but this is what I found I did a test 3 different ways... 1) 3d Curve (original scan.. .Zeiss told me to do it this way on this program a long, long time ago) 2) a 2D curve and 3) finally just a diameter What i found out in a 3D curve when recalling into a diameter, i do not have to constrain pos for radius and radius for pos... but with a 2d curve and diameter.. I do.... All three checks now read relatively the same for pos and size. When plotting to curve points in Cad software, I get within .001 of what the machine was saying. I then did a trace on the part with a contour device and got within .001 also...

Hi Richard. So one displayed with .M is useless. How can that be. Note Position Tolerance I entered is 0.08 which shows up in +Tol column and result has .M denoted.

Hi Andreas, du kannst anstelle eines OK-Abbrechen-Dialogs einen Dialog ohne Schaltflächen erzeugen... dann ist dieser Spacer auch weg. Die Buttons kannst du dir dann als Schalftläche/Drucktaste einfügen, ohne dass dieser Abstand entsteht. Viele Grüße Michael Lösch

Still shocked that this is the Zeiss official method of removing the (M).

There is a knowledge base article covering this exact question: ZEISS Portal If you are not US based, I believe you will have to change your location to the US in your ZEISS Portal profile to see the article.

On flexible parts or fixtures I use Space Points in all three axes right after the Base Alignment. This method determines if the part and or fixture, depending on which you are testing, has moved by evaluating the X,Y,Z coords in the beginning and at the end of the program. You can use the same methodology to check whether a stylus is intact or broken. Determine where you want to contact on the part or fixture, in your case I would use the fixture as it should not deviate from your nominal point values. Perhaps even add a Tooling Ball or Rectangular Block that allows you to add Space Points. Add a tolerance you would expect, typically I would base the tolerance on the Stylus Sigma. Then add a Result element for each coordinate with a ".toleranceState" Example for the X axis: getActual("Point1X").toleranceState The above will return True or False. Stop the program if False by adding a cncBreak if False.

To prevent a probe or individual stylus from being used in any program just set the Stylus limits for each probe, Example RTS CAA or for a List, individual probes. If the assigned Probe or the assigned Stylus is not within the tolerance set, it will not allow the Probe or Stylus to run.

Regarding the comment of the OP I think here we have kind of a problem in the specification. 0,05 U0 tells us that the toleranced shape is not allowed to be larger than nominal (limiting size and form as well). So the tolerance zone expands entirely into the material. In contrast to this the triangle symbol allows an offset zone where the size is no longer to be considered for the profile and must be otherwise limited e.g. by a dimension. So the question arising out of this: What is the intention of the designer? Shall the size be limited by the U0 or completely be opened in terms of size (not form) with the triangle symbol? Of course in both cases the distance between the boundaries remains the same but the location of the resulting zone can be something completely different. In my opinion we see here a contradiction in the specification which should be clarified to get rid of the ambiguity. By the way this is not supported in CALYPSO and we are happy to add the dynamic profile as a software request. The dynamic zone is called Offset Zone in ISO and used with the OZ modifier

Hello, A little bit late to the topic, but I did the same thing to automate import. The problem is that my variable for curve path in the File Selection does not update automatically when I run the program, only when opening the Formula tab manually. Have you already had the same problem? Do you have a solution? I run on Calypso 2023.

MV50 will probably be problematic due to vibrations and movement checks. You can use the scanport app --> full calibration. Or use a tritop.

Check PCM forum section -> https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/forum/36-pcm/

Strange - i've just tried that right now, where i have a polygon path extracted from CAD face and modifying that angle rotates that path also.

HI! I am working with Calypso 7.8. I have a measuring program with several characteristics, one is roundness and I would like to print the graphic as the moment the roundness is evaluated, I mean I don't want to wait for the program finished to print the graphic. Has anyone can help me with this issue? I tried different method but it is not working, I always get the graphic when the program ends. Thanks in advance!!!

The ScanPort has its own app for calibration. It will handle it for you. Though I'm not certain if the normal ScanPort app handles the MV50 by default.

The bottom one is useless to you. The top one is the actual Position. The bottom one is just a statistical calculation of the actual divided by the total tolerance multiplied by the base tolerance.