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Exactly!

https://carl-zeiss-industrial-metrology-llc.helpjuice.com/zeiss-inspect_main/zeiss-inspectcreating-an-initial-alignment-for-trend-projects?from_search=239465967

You're saying a start alignment set up the way Martin mentioned earlier? (pasted below) "And for those alignments: i've opened measuring program -> placed a part into nest1 -> opened alignment window ( base / start ) -> renamed as "ORIGINAL NAME-p1" and run manual alignment. Repeat for all positions. For 3 parts"

A start system with points and a huge search distance before/after nominal position does the trick.

This may also help. https://carl-zeiss-industrial-metrology-llc.helpjuice.com/zeiss_inspect/zeissgom-inspect-check-position-gdt-position-tolerance/version/1?kb_language=en_US

https://carl-zeiss-industrial-metrology-llc.helpjuice.com/zeiss-inspect_main/zeiss-license-manager-20-managing-license-updates-and-missing-contracts/version/1?kb_language=en_US

It could be anywhere from a fraction of an inch to inches difference

@Jochen Heller While this circle is "refferenced" then i am getting no result with warning. Strange is, that in Calypso i can use Symmetry point ( not symmetry from points ) and it allows me to use MMC. Edit: The Scalar actual data missing

You can`t use "Check Dimension (Independency Principle)" on the circles? Thats weird.

@Jochen Heller I've tried circles. I did center of circle from symmetry point, radius from point ( one of them ) This allows me to finally see GD&T sizes, but it can not calculate 2point distance, so still no MMR in that. I wanted to use just 2 actual points to fit circle inside, but i can not do this either.

Got another idea. Contruct circles from the intersection points of the teeth with the red circle and the symmetrie point of the pairs as center of the cirle. The ideal size and tolerance of the circles would be the same as the width. This way you got a elelement of size to use for postion with mmr, that in this scenario represents the same as the width.

That is also our current workflow for the majority of our machines, but we have 100's of programs per machine. So we would really like to get away from the default AutoRun tree structure and just search for them instead

@Jochen Heller I am able to obtain 2 points, but then i am lost. So i think this is not correct drawing to norms. I can report TP for all or individual ones after i fix rotation, but anything above tolerance i can not calculate.

For me this is too small to accuratelly measure. For 0,5mm chamfer i do only one point in the middle of chamfer. Make intersection from faces to obtain sharp corner. Place a touch point and direction set to 45° From that point place theoretical 3d line and intersect from both sides. Now you can measure distance from both directions. For our usage is this fine.

Replicated the situation and ... what to use as linear element of size? There is the witdh, but that is not the actually element the symmetrie or position is used on. So basiclly i would say you can not represent it like it is put in the drawing.

Here's a section view. it's about a half inch in length.

perfect thank you i will try to check it

We have not many programs so i did like directory tree menu. On main panel there is top tree, which directs to another panel, where it divides into another group and so on to final part and it's stages.

@Jochen Heller I think i have a problem only with (M) - can not enable it - not relevant dimension.

You could treat it as a position tolerance (actual symmetrie-point to ideal) with a non circular tolerance zone. Edit: Reading post again, this is what you allready tried?

Hello colleagues, We're trying to improve our workflow for our several CMM's. We're currently trying to implement the 'search for...' dialog box, which we did by appending [SEARCH DIALOG :'1200' '400' ] to our .arn file. However, this dialog box defaults to the 'key word' setting, but we would like it to default to the 'measurement plan name' setting (every second counts, I suppose...). I already tried changing the appended .arn line to [SEARCH DIALOG :'1200' '400' '1' ] and [SEARCH DIALOG :'1200' '400' '2' ]. I also tried saving the .arn file with the dialog box open, and the correct setting selected. But sadly, neither of these options worked. Does anyone have any clue if this is even possible to do? Thanks!

Hi i have this sketch and i am dealing with symmetry callout with (M). My guess is using pattern of 6 symmetry points. Then using TruePosition. But problem is i can not find a way to enable MMR. Any hints? Part has 6 teeth symmetrical by 60° and width is determined by basic dimension of diameter ( red color ).

Hi, thank you for reaching out and welcome back from your vacation! 😊 To properly analyse this issue with your PiWeb report, we kindly ask you to contact your local ZEISS support team directly — they'll be best equipped to investigate and get everything back up and running for you. Best regards

Hi, You can use the InteractiveStandardProtocol. This is a generic report with the CAD model of the relevant inspection plan already loaded. If required, use the functions in the report header to: - filter features that are outside tolerance, - display form plots, - view additional metadata in Info Mode, such as the feature position on the CAD model.

Working with Calypso version 7.8 2025, I have a question on reporting only positive results. The question may seem a little odd since we all would like to see positive results for EVERYTHING 😊 However, when it comes to the actual report of the data, I would like to see all positive results without any worry of displaying a negative sign. Is there a way to either enter a formula, or better yet, is there a place withing the PI web editor to check off - 'Positive Results Only' - ? Thanks in advance 👍