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I'm attempting to get my Planner setup but my Create RC List button is grayed out. What am I doing wrong?
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In the example below, I'm looking for a way to measure the distance from the centerline of a cylindrical part relative to a datum created from a perpendicular construction (bliue). The angle was measured from the small cylinder to the perp construction. I'm just having a brain cramp over the distance. thanks in advance.
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.8MM Stylus checking a 1.0MM hole Clearance Clarence...
[Ke...] replied to [Je...] 's topic in General
Retract distance is the distance off the wall for a cylinder, and it is based on ball center. So Retract=( Radius of the hole-Radius of the probe) should put it right down the middle, if the hole is at nominal position (A system cant adjust to a position that it doesn't know yet, so it has to run to the nominal). As Dustin indicated, 0.1 for retract in this case -
.8MM Stylus checking a 1.0MM hole Clearance Clarence...
[Du...] replied to [Je...] 's topic in General
set your clearance distance to 0 and retract distance to .1 -
First is there a setting, utility, plan...something to direct the stylus to approach and retract from the center of a circle when scanning a circle? Because this makes perfect sense... If not, my clearance data is at -.8MM and still off center. So negatives don't work. Thanks.
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Hi All, I am using Calypso 2023 and when I do a calibration program I still use Std.dev formula to check sigma and radius. Is there any easier and quicker method ?
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30-90sec Lag (consistently just after program completes)
[Ro...] replied to [Se...] 's topic in General
Memory, however much you have, double it and then some. Open the tower and pour sticks in. Even the Zeiss provided computers come very under powered. -
The alignment was from a 3d line along Z axis and I also had another 3d line constructed from two circles paths along the X axis. I noticed that the planar rotation was affecting the direction as the alignment trihedron was inverted to the part in Z axis. I adjusted the planar and it looks like it works fine now. Thanks all!
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Thank you for the response! I eventually got a program to cooperate and keep the model along the Y axis. Then my loop would never initialize. I was hitting the thread chamfer. I moved the point to the actual thread and the loops finally initialized. However, whenever I replace the part and give the part a very slight rotation, the thread scan doesn't line up. I added a formula to move in the Y AXIS but was unsuccessful. now using simulation so I don't take up the CMM. base alignment with the thread point.
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My guess is your strategy circle path has a start height of 3.2, should be zero. Look at the feature and show the nominal circle and the measured points and see if they line up.
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I find it interesting that Zeiss says "NEVER use loctite of any kind on a stylus system!!!" But several other vendors include a card with our stylus order that says you "MUST use loctite on all stylus joints!!!" We dont use it because I have to go with whatever the people in charge of my warranty say, but my gut tells me it would be absolutely fine to use removable thread locker?
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Is you base alignment primary from a cylinder? In that case I would rather scan two circles and make 3d line from them.
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Hmm, yeah I guess they maybe are. I have the start points at the normal +X/0°, and they go for 380°, so it looks like they go outward from the center of the part at about the 2:00 - 2:15 positions. I'll try to bump it up to like 450° and see if they move. EDIT: Hmm, I guess I default the overscan to 380° on diameters, not the plane, my bad.
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Possibly. Only tweak would be 0-380° - always overscan when possible as your worst points are your start and stop points. That Flatness plot for the most part looks amazing. The mag is set to 10,000:1, so everything looks extreme.
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Is it just me or does it look like the high and low points are at the start/end points of the scans?
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I absolutely am, thought that was clear. I am trying to do what everyone is asking me to try, and seeing what changes in an attempt to understand the software better and where my issue/misunderstanding lies. So let me first clear up a little bit, I am NOT a 'CMM programmer', I AM the entire inspection dept. So using the O-inspect 543, is only like 8% of what I do right now. Last time I touched this machine was probably a month ago. I am the first person at this company that has had any understanding of GD&T, before me their handling of GD&T was "We don't know what those symbols mean, so we just ignore them". My mind was BLOWN when I heard that. I took the Zeiss Basic training, but it was at least 6 months AFTER the training, that I was ever able to use the machine. this is not an ideal situation, I WANT to be better at this than I currently am. Why only the 4 points? Should I not be trying to grab as much of the surfaces as possible to get the best representation at what is going on? I'm not arguing you, just trying to make sense of it all. point spacing = Step width I assume? I'm pretty sure I've done what you suggested and the attachments are of the results. Ask and you shall receive, I am willing to give you guys whatever you need in order to help me figure out where my misunderstanding and issues lie. I am not a 'good enough' kind of person, I don't want to 'know' how to do something, I want to understand it. The monkey knew how to fly to the moon, but didn't understand it. I don't want to be the monkey. I know I have A LOT to learn, I just don't have the time or support where I currently am, no one to bounce ideas off of, which is why there's sometimes a long delay between my responses. Thank you to everyone that is trying to help me.
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Your strategy seems plausible. There's only a few things I would change if it were me. I don't know if its possible to establish the center line on the shaft instead of the threads, but that's what I'd be leaning towards. Also, I'd only establish the rotation point on the thread face, instead of your strategy of establishing both Y and rotation using the threads. This is just my theory. It all looks legit otherwise. The way Calypso see's it, if you leave blanks in the base alignment, then it pulls from the start alignment, if there are also blanks in the start alignment, then it pulls from the machine coordinates. Order of precedent is Base Alignment>Start Alignment>machine coordinates.
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I've never seen this happen, but my measured position is flipped from the nominal. Has anyone seen this before? For context, I am measuring a cylindrical part on a rotary table. The primary Datums A and B are along the Z axis, measured at 3.200" and -3.200" respectively. I construct a 3d line from the circle paths and use that in my base alignment as my spatial and my X and Y. I was going to just take a fresh manual alignment and see if that addresses the issue, but wanted to see if there was anything I should look at first.
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Blade Pro 2014 cannot edit some tolerances
[Da...] replied to [Da...] 's topic in General Discussion
Thank you, i think i found what i shluld: Profile tolerance is set, TE_Profile is set and i still see weird values. Min / Max tolerances: on some sections its both having -0.15 on osome just max has -0.15 I used the update/recalculate, also accept buttons but it not helps. Is there some special order of doing this or what ? -
You have to use segments and don't forget to select all segments and click on "measure in group" - that will avoid approach and retract from scan and it will scan whole curve on one go. Only problem is that all measured points will be in first segment. Without grouping it would act like paths in strategy.
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@Herbert Spitzer Thanks - after trial i finally found working solution. I had a problem with my curve was scanned in division ( showing "2D curve(16)" ) when i created recalled curve without division i got finally correct measurement without problems. Thanks again for new approach
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Good morning everyone, Do you know if there's a way to assign different speeds on the same curve? Thanks a lot.
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@Richard Shomaker "tun on display of plot" thats what i was missing. Thanks for the tip!
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30-90sec Lag (consistently just after program completes)
[Ch...] replied to [Se...] 's topic in General
When I have a program(s) giving me problems like this I will typically try disabling one result/file output at a time until I find the culprit. Have you already turned everything OFF for testing under "Results to File" and Measurement Tab > Multiple Printout?
