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8.0 still not working well for me either. 7.8 has been manageable at the very least.

Ciao Frederico, Can you understand this? To increase safety, you can add some intermediate positions to the part.

Joe is correct. You need to remember that position callouts control position AND orientation. It seems the designer intends to control the orientation of both cylinders to each other.

If the software is Zeiss Inspect, use this function: https://techguide.zeiss.com/en/zeiss-inspect-2026/article/cmd_internal_sys_export_gom_xml_by_report_pages_csv.html

This part is "average" size for what we do here, but we have made this tooth pattern before. The ID is 23.98 - 24.03mm with a 4.46mm length. How do I go about getting the option for that when I have a freeform as the feature being evaluated? When I select DATUM D for the DRF the option does not appear. We have other programs that do not use freeform and the MMB/LMB option shows up. I'm looking into freeform training right now.

Why are people with bad form unattractive? Because you cant Datum.

Norbert, slow down! You're not planning on leaving us already, are you? Retirement isn't until you're 70, and we're sure you'll want to keep working for another 10 years. It's so much fun with Zeiss 🙂

Hallo Herr Piotrowski, wir müssen das Verhalten analysieren. Ich möchte Sie bitten, im Customer Interaction Center (+49 7364 20 6337) anzurufen und sich ein Ticket ausstellen zu lassen.

Datums consume all possible degrees of freedom. In this case datum A is only consuming Rotation in X and Y. Translation in X and Y and Z are not constrained (This is effectively the same as perpendicularity) Since there are no basics, Wherever that hole lies *is* your datum B. It can lie anywhere on the surface as long as its perpendicular to the datum A hole.

CMM Observer is also available from zeiss (but it is an antiquated product that I would not recommend)

Worse for me. The performance was abysmal at first, but got fixed (at least in my case). But now I have multiple things going wrong - probes not in the right place, can't enable "stylus only" view, stylus running in the completely wrong area of the part, importing ssc files and not recognizing created styli etc.

If und Else gehen in Formeln nicht, das ist aber glaube ich auch mit PCM so. Man kann sich da aber behelfen, indem man den gewünschten Wert durch passende Rechenoperationen mit dem booleschen Vergleichswert verknüpft und so das Ergebnis entweder auf den Wert oder eben auf Null setzen lässt. Das könnte z.B. so aussehen: getActual(MaxPunkt).x*ord(getRecordHead("dmesn")<>"000000") Das getActual(...).x repräsentiert den Wert aus dem Max-Punkt (musst du auf deinen Fall anpassen). Die Funktion ord() macht aus einem "true" den Zahlenwert 1 und aus einem "false" eine 0. Wenn also GetRecordHead("dmesn")<>"000000" = true ergibt, wird getActual mit 1 multipliziert und es kommt der Zahlenwert raus. Ergibt es "false" (d.h. es läuft in der Simulation), dann wird mit 0 multipliziert und somit auch der Gesamtwert zu Null gesetzt.

Dear colleagues, I'm slowly getting tired of working with the planner in its current desolate state! (7.4.24) Is there any hope? What is the situation with CALYPSO 8.0? Best regards, Karsten

Guten Morgen Zusammen, seitdem vor einigen Jahren Calypso die Schnittstelle gewechselt hatte wurde bei mir das "Messmodul" (sprich Gruppenname in Prüfmerkmalen) nicht mehr exportiert. Das hat mich ehrlich gesagt weniger gestört da ich die Messmodule einfach Manuell im Planner geändert habe und somit auch unabhängig von den Eingaben der Kollegen an der KMG war. In letzter Zeit ist mir aufgefallen das der Reiter Messmodul bei so gut wie allen Messwerten "Leer" überschrieben worden sind. Somit habe ich weder die Gruppennamen vom Calypso noch meine selbst eingepflegten Daten zur Verfügung. Ich vermute das ging mit dem Update auf Calypso 2025 einher. Hat jemand ähnliche Probleme oder kann mir erklären wie ich wenigstens die Gruppennamen als Messmodul bekomme? Beste Grüße Martin

Using that point you obtain nominal and actual, but not in surface callout. But once you create that point, you can use nominal and actual in user defined.

Hi Martin, Yeah - I am able to create a Point that is only the Actual, but I really need to Nominal, so that I can properly display it with the axis deviations.

Hi Richard, I think i got into it like this: Make surface profile callout. Select this callout and extract MIN and MAX deviation flag. Select surface feature and use user-defined formula. Define Variable as picture Define Actual expresion like "A.coordinate.x" ( after first DOT it will popup ) I can not find a way to obtain nominal point. Alternative - you can create point from that surface MIN flag and report that.

I have too problems with translating into meaningful text. I think on newer versions of Calypso you can not delete / not use safety plane, but you can have sub clearance planes, which are used defined. But if you are asking about complex safety path, then it's not easy to do it right and safe.

Hi @Zolfagari Kaveh✌️ Welcome back to the forums. As you noticed, there was a translation not too long ago where the legacy Zeiss forum format was merged with the Zeiss Inspect (GOM Inspect) forum, and the latter was used for the unified format. The forum admin team did a great job transitioning most of the old content over to the new unified site. However, not all content and metrics made it to the new site. That being said, we are alive and well, and it's great to have you join us again. How has life in the metrology trenches been going for you? -Jeff

Hello Chaowei. I was having difficulty translating all of your text to English, so that I could understand your question. Could you please repost your question in text? It appears that you're asking a question related to clearance data and a similar feature for navigation in PC-DMIS. Thanks, and welcome to the forums. It's great to have you here.

If the tolerance range is large enough. You can use a flat ended pin gage that fits freely inside the hole and take point on it. You can then just subtract distance between beginning of cylinder (plane or point) and the point on the pin from the total length of that pin gage ( You will need to tweak this depending on if the pin is sitting above or below the beginning of cylinder). I usually use prompt for operator to input total length of pin gage to allow use of different pin gages for proper fit. Things to be careful about: The pin gage should not be chamfered or rounded at the edges. In order to create the point feature for the point on pin: 1) Create secondary alignment using the angled cylinder 2) Create new point feature using this alignment and provide appropriate X,Y, Z, i, j, and k values. 3) Use programmable stop to allow operator to put a pin before taking the point (and after as well to remove pin if needed). Add good enough clearance distance to allow clearance to put the pin in. 4) Also, change the search distance before nominal for probing to avoid collisions.

If you are looking for help with CALYPSO exporting to CSV, unfortunately it isn't possible. The closest CALYPSO supports is the table files (which are tab delimited). That usually works in most circumstances, but I can't guarantee it will for you.

Before I go down a huge rabbit hole of re-working a program, is there any way to pull the nominals for a max/min deviation that I pulled from a surface profile? I am able to access the actuals, but I need the nominals as well. Any and all help is greatly appreciated.

Is that part that small? It looks like 0.33mm length of a cylinder is really small compared to it's diameter. Is that something to watches? 🙂 Would be acceptable to have main axis from plane perpendicular to datum D and datum D having only circle? I think your problem is not having MMB on datum D.