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Caliper distance not matching additional result on true position?
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Actually thinking about it again I have no idea how I am getting a Y result besides 0, since it is using the top hole as the orientation 😖 I have quadruple checked all my alignments and nominals and everything and it all seems to be correct... still very confused any advice is appreciated -
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Hello, I was asked to give the Y and Z result for a hole in relation to another hole. The characteristics i am having issues with are 2 holes facing towards X-, and about an inch apart of each other in the Z direction. The Z distance was already reported since it was a dimension on the print, but there was no Y distance (it was not fitting on a gage, so they wanted to know where they were in relation to each other for adjustment) they are supposed to be in line with each other on the Y, so if I had used another caliper or cartesian distance it would only show how far away they are from Zero, not which direction. So i decided to use a reference GD&T true position, with loose enabled so i can use a coordinate system as the datums. I made the coordinate system use the bottom hole as my zero, and a 3d line between the 2 holes as my planar rotation. I enabled additional result on the true position so it would report the Y and Z, and i also used the alignment i had made on the caliper distance I use to report the Z as well so they would have the same orientation when calculating the distance. I have noticed that the additional result and the caliper distance report to be different about .0001-.001 each report (it is different between every part, but on average its about .0005 inches) this has caused people on the floor to ask me why and I have spent a lot of time trying to figure out why and I cant seem to get any better results than that. I threw together a quick drawing to help explain better, If you have any questions please let me know. Thank you very much for your help!
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Dear Chris Gear Rotolo,(middle name meant as a compliment) Thank you for elaborating on the subject. I'm currently in the early stages of a functional analysis that is focusing on using chemically accelerated Isotropic SuperFinishing to remove Micropitting from case/induction hardened gear teeth and prolong the life of the gears. A lot of the older gear nomenclature on the gears I'm using are controlled with K-charts. Even though the New AGMA 2015-1-A01 established in 2003 no longer recommended using the "K" chart for profile and lead evaluations, it is still being used in the automotive and agriculture field I work within, seen a 2024 print the other day using it. The problem with the “K” chart is that any profile or lead within the defined “K” area could be an acceptable gear. Some of the newer prints restrict the alignment to be with the high point tangential to the reference line, and defines allowable pitch and index deviations, the older prints do not. When checking worn gears, short of topographical evaluation, having the diagram alignment selections is imperative. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't anything affected that is not intuitively implied. I am struggling with K-charts appearing on leads and I haven't updated to Gear-Pro 2025 yet, but I hope it fixes the lead K-charts.
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First define stopping element on a part. Now make 3 separate segments and edit start angle and angle range to cover correct place on a part. Just like Christian showed. You can not have 380° coverage if you select correct angles.
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Reinigung von Stahlteilen nach TiO₂‑Beschichtung für optisches Messen
[Ma...] replied to [Si...] 's topic in General Discussion
So we've tried a cleaning spray from Czech company ( i am not sure if name will be known outside ) - then cloth and rubbing off. It comes off easily, but cloth is dirty in a while and it makes spots. Not so bad for us, but it can be a problem on precise parts when assembling. -
You have to turn on excel reporting for the plan you are running. Resources, define report, default report/ warning limit, then choose the whichever Characteristic template you want to use. The Characteristic.xlt would be if you are using older versions of Excel that use the .xls format. Characteristics .xlsm would be for newer versions of Excel using the .xlsx format. These templates can be changed to suit your needs. There are some guides if you do a bit of google searching, on how to do that. Here is an older guide, but it can at least give you an idea of what you can do. Calypso Excel Reporting.pdf
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(New concept) Qualifying Disc probes with RDS XXT sensor.
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I do a similar this but with this block I had this made for the 5 commons. Z-, Y+, X+, Y- & X-. Made a program to check them with a 3x50mm then compare the results and adjust til they are within .0000X Excel might have some errors. that copy is kinda old. lol I have a new one that has each month of data. I never thought about trying it at other angles. Not sure if i would since it takes awhile and i generally don't have the time while keeping up with production. 🤔 DISK CALIBRATION VALUES copy.xlsx -
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It needs to be in the text file called specialmenu.txt or something like that. You should be able to search the forum and find the specific name. Then I think it needs to be in the program folder. but root of the default program directory might work too.
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Also thought this was bizarre the first time lol
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Christmas, I did , but 3x circle will do 380° circle
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Could someone explain how to do it again? I have recently updated to calypso 2025 and wanted to test this out but it doesn't seem like i can access the video anymore. Do i take: Dark Mode=UI.Skins.SkinRegistry current isLightSkin ifTrue: [UI.Skins.SkinRegistry factoryMethodSelector: #emulatedWindowsDarkSkin] ifFalse: [UI.Skins.SkinRegistry factoryMethodSelector: #calypsoSkin]. and put it into a text document in the: C:\Users\Public\Documents\Zeiss\CALYPSO folder? if so what should it be named? I think i remember doing it like that before but i am not sure. Thanks!
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My Zeiss mouse pad from 2008 is getting pretty ragged. Google isn't much help. Any way to get a new one?
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When I ran into a similar issue with the 322 at a previous position, we corrected the issue by removing and re-seating the network card that the camera is plugged into.
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Reinigung von Stahlteilen nach TiO₂‑Beschichtung für optisches Messen
[No...] replied to [Si...] 's topic in General Discussion
Da TiO2 chemisch inert ist, wird es da keine vernünftige Lösung geben. TiO2 löst sich nur in heißer Schwefelsäure oder heißen Laugen langsam auf. Das dürfte kaum eine praktikable Methode sein 🤣 Ich hätte jetzt auch gesagt, Ultraschall könnte noch die beste Option sein, aber natürlich können sich dann auch wieder Restpartikel, die noch im Bad schwimmen, auf der Oberfläche absetzen. @Nanno MuehlScannen ohne Sprühen ist bei manchen Werkstoffen leider kaum machbar. Wir messen nahezu ausschließlich Kunststoff-Spritzgießteile aus Polyamiden und ähnlichen Kunststoffen, und da gibt es kaum Teile, die sich ohne Sprühen auch nur halbwegs vernünftig scannen lassen. -
I have ran into this error before and like Christian said it could be the head but also could be an air bearing. I had this error on one of our machines a few months ago and it would popup when check bores or when qualifying styli. It turned out to one of the air bearings in the Y axis was dragging slightly and causing a power draw issue.
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Hi Peter, I would ignore the MMR for the datum. When they want that funktion, they have to apply it to the datum system for a dimension. For the datum itself ... It is unclear what the designer wants for me too. Maybe it would be clearer knowing the full part and the assembly.
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Thanks Jochen, for me is not problem create elements with MMR. But I'm not quite sure what the designer wants from me. How would you create a datum system? Thanks, P.
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Hi, i'm trying to create the Datum system of this drawing: but using just the point in this way result in an error: I thought of making geometric element from points but have trouble with B and C : A is easy, Plane from 3 points; B could be also plane from 3 point but i don't thinks that right since it seems that the datum b is perpendicular to the plane for point B1,2,3 C i was thinking of making 2 lines, C1-C3 and C2-C4 and intersecate the to create point C. Any suggestion for Datum B? Thoughts of Datum C? Thanks in advances Best regards Andrea
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Hi, does anyone here happen to know about possible causes if the camera image and the lighting don't work? Cable connections on the PC side seem to be ok and Calypso doesn't throw a real error, it just fails to measure. Maybe a loose cable somewhere in the controller? Problem is although the CMM is still in use, we already cancelled our service contracts because it's due to be sold. So we don't want to pay for an expensive repair anymore unless it's absolutely necessary.
