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Hello everyone, I could use some direction on an issue I am having. The part pictured, I was trying to measure the center line of the part to the center of the holes that have red dot's near them. I created center lines through the 3 holes pictured on the X axis and then a center line from each center line in the holes along the X axis. Used cartesian distance from the hole to the center line. The result was both holes were shifted on the Y+ axis by .100-.150. I also used a center line in the holes and did a cartesian distance to the center line on the X axis and still dimensions were shifted .100-.150 on Y+. Just for reference, measured the holes from inside edge to inside edge with a caliper just for reference and they measure the same, not the .100-.150 I was seeing. I am not sure what I did wrong, I don't see these holes being off that much. What method should I use to measure this distance? Thanks, Lou
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I am able to use formulas in Calypso 2024. But would be better to select all curves and then make box selection? It should apply same dimensions to all selected curves.
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Transfer report pages from a project to another project
[AJ...] replied to [Be...] 's topic in 3D Inspection & Mesh Editing
We could Import one project to another project as new part folder. That way all the report pages from both projects will be added and we can export CSV/PDF. Here the problem is , if both projects has same alignment / coordinate system - The project rename every same elements differently. Hence report page to corresponde to project shows differently. We cannot claim both are same project while exporting report pages. -
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[Na...] started following Pass/Fail Overview Page , Export User Defined Table Format After Kiosk Done and Symmetry detection
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Export User Defined Table Format After Kiosk Done
[Na...] replied to [Gö...] 's topic in Import & Export
Hi Gökhan, the Export CSV By Report Page will export elements in different alignments. The alignments are defined by report pages. The result file is defined by an export template and does not represent your table 1:1 probably. The export csv by report pages can be added to the exports in the kiosk and does not need an additional script. Nanno -
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Hi all, For a Gage R&R study, I took >50 measurements of the same tool by using a loop. Halfway through the measurements, the measurement data is (unintended) saved in a second set (#23-#28) and near the end in a third set (#50-#52). In the meantime and at the end the results are saved in the original set. See attached screenshots. I really have no idea what's causing this. Any suggestions? screenshots.
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Moin Sebastian, Wir nutzen mehrere Referenzkugeln beim einmessen. Trotz freundlichem Putzen der Kugeln und taster kam es immer wieder mal vor, dass das Einmessen des Referenztasters (Position Einmesskugel ) nicht geklappt hat. Dann lief danach natürlich alles schief und hat etliche zeit gekostet. Daher noch mal vor dem Einmessen der Taster prüfen ob es geklappt hat und lieber einen Abbruch: ... Und dann noch die Kollegen "nerven" und abfragen ob wirklich alles sauber ist :
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Mittel Resultatelement kann dies gelingen. Mache ich auch. Resultatelement erstellen öffnen und dann unten rechtsklick und Formel wählen. getProbe(tasternr,tastersystemname).radius gibt dir den Radius. Im Element musst du dann Toleranzen und Nennmaß angeben. Ist sehr aufwendig aber geht. Wichtig geht ohne PCM
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The closest thing to an un-do button is hitting "Reset" before closing the feature/characteristic you're working on. In Calypso, "Undo" relates to undoing the previous manual point(s) taken on a feature, either on the part or on the model.
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Below is a simple profile from the OD of a cylindrical part. The view is from the X/Z plane. It contains a mix of cones and tori. The cones are controlled with angular tolerances and gage dia's or gage lengths. The tori have radius tolerances. Measuring cones takes a long time to scan but don't tell you much. And the radii have such short arc segments can be problematic for consistency. Often, I will create a curve so I can plot a graph to help build confidence in the shape of the profile. From the curve, I can create lines and circles by windowing selected points from the curve, so I don't have to measure things twice. Note: I did not use a curve in the example below. In the past, I have created 3 copies of the curve and rotated the curves by 90, 180 and 270 degrees about Z so I can create the cones from 4 lines but I have to manually re-create the windows for capturing the points at the new lines. This can be a time-killer on parts with more features. Is there a trick to having the windows rotate along with the lines? No PCM
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Iterative Alignment Method to Measure Bore from Lands Only on Rifled Barrels
[is...] replied to [Br...] 's topic in General
Same as Zen and Pat methods using self centering point and min/max coordinate. Scan the bore across lands and grooves using a line feature, use maximum coordinate (for ID) to get the farthest point from the center of the bore, then create a self centering point using the farthest point. Use the self centering point feature on your alignment in planar rotation. Rotate your alignment to get the land. In the attached pic, I have an external spline with 64 teeth that is why I used minimum coordinate. -
It has not been resolved yet. I tested the 1st fix attempt from Germany in mid February. The issue is still ongoing and I look forward to testing the next fix. I have added move points to all of our programs with a torus as the stop gap solution for the short term.
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Hello, in Inspect you would usually align the mesh to a nominal CAD. In cases without CAD data, the part can be scanned in the correct coordinate system, or an initial alignment like 3-2-1 is used. As @Jochen Heller suggested, the symmetry plane is like a Gaussian plane through the part with a constraint in this example. The direction constraint could be defined by any element with a direction, maybe even with a plane in viewing direction, if you want to visually define a plane similar to the video (ZEISS Quality Tech Guide). With a UDIP it is also possible to construct a coordinate system in a similar way, after the first direction is defined. For further inspections I suggest using defined elements for the directions, also for repeatability. For a first coordinate system, a UDIP could be used in Inspect. The rotations can be refined by using rotate. But again, for an inspection task I don't think manual alignments should be used. For following inspection task on measured parts, a pseudo CAD from an aligned mesh could be used as a nominal element for a prealignment in the standard workflow. 27-03-2026_17-26-02.mp4 If you want to play around with the UDIP (very powerful tool by the way 🙂 ZEISS Quality Tech Guide) you can install the App and apply it to a nominal plane like a measuring principle. For reverse engineering of free form surfaces, the coordinate system should not be that important, because there are nor directional constraints like for a cylinder axis or plane normal. Nanno Coordinate system.addon
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Hi, there could be several 3D placeholders, one for each stage on a report page with the inspection details for all elements on it ZEISS Quality Tech Guide to get a quick view of the status. There is also the possibility to create stage ranges dynamically by expressions. With the expression project_statistics.all.number_of_within_tolerance != project_statistics.all.number_of_toleranced_attributes there will be a stage range with all stages with at least one inspection out of tolerance. If you set this stage range active with report style 'Table', the table will only show stages, where this condition is met. When the stage range is active and a report page is created with this view, it will update dynamically. The table needs one visible check, but the display could be edited to something like this:
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Hallo zusammen, mir Stellt sich die Frage ob es einen Weg gibt, die Tastereinmessung im Piweb-Protokoll abzuspeichern. Hintergrund ist das bei uns mehre unterschiedliche Leute, in unterschiedlichen Abteilungen die Tastereinmessung durchführen, im Arbeitsprotokoll wird die Personal-Nr. nicht abspeichert. Den Arbeitsprotokollkopf kann man nicht bearbeiten? Hat jemand eine Idee wie ich das umsetzen kann? Hinweis es sollte ohne PCM funktionieren.
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Update: Instead of using results element for the calibration date, it was added in the comment. Thanks to Michael Schultze for sharing the knowledge.
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I don't think so. The Position of a CF to A would just be the orientation of the symmetric plane to A (Perpendicularity), but the Position of a 2x pattern to A would be each of their orientations to A (Perpendicularity) as well as their respective orientation and location to each other.
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Moin Manuel, also ich empfehle Dir bzw. wir weißen nur die Streuung und den Durchmesser/Radius von den Tastern aus. Die Position wird ja durch das Kalibrieren/Einmessen komepnsiert. LG Christian
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We use AutoRun on some of our machines, but for others the desk dropdown would be massive. Thank you anyway
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Hi Monika, I´ve changed this in the "Charateristic" directly. You just have to pay attention to which direction the + and - - goes into the material (Ø gets smaller) + goes in the other direction. This works for th hole curve.
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I'm interested, isn't it the same thing in this case - pattern or continuous feture?
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I enclosed send the drawing details. That is in 2 outer ground diamters. The lengths of cylinder: 22h6 about 25mm long, 25h6 about 30mm long.
