[Ri...] Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 I'm quite OCD when it comes to programming to pure geometry. Really OCD...To the point it irritates me when I open a program and Nominals and or Vectors are skewed garbage. So when I program a feature and then later open it up and the Nominals and or Vectors are skewed values, something is changing the numbers within Calypso! This happens far too many times to ignore anymore. Has anyone ran into this issue with v2021? I've never had this issue with v2020. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/10156-calypso-changing-nominals-and-or-vectors-on-its-own/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ju...] Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 I have had this issue when the CAD model has a different geometry than the drawing, and I select features directly from the model. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/10156-calypso-changing-nominals-and-or-vectors-on-its-own/#findComment-48456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 It doesn't matter for my install if I'm working from CAD or creating geometry manually. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/10156-calypso-changing-nominals-and-or-vectors-on-its-own/#findComment-48458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 Too add to this, I have to requalify styli all the time. I cant go even the typical 30 day interval without finding a styli that no longer capable of scanning, example a ring gage, to the correct size. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/10156-calypso-changing-nominals-and-or-vectors-on-its-own/#findComment-48460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Er...] Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Please sign in to view this quote. I have seen some unexplainable measurements where all of a sudden it's measuring location further off then they actually are, as well as sizes showing different measurements as well. We haven't had any collisions, made sure to re-check with a manual alignment, re-clean parts, check for burrs, and nothing. We would re-qualify our stylii, and magically, it measures correctly. I'm not sure this is the same thing, but something to be watching more closely for. I personally haven't seen vectors changing, but I'll need to watch more closely and I'll report if find the same issue. Curious, are you using the latest service pack? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/10156-calypso-changing-nominals-and-or-vectors-on-its-own/#findComment-48462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 Not sure what the latest service pack is... This is my version.Calypso 2021.JPG Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/10156-calypso-changing-nominals-and-or-vectors-on-its-own/#findComment-48464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ow...] Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 There was another service pack released in February of this year, service pack 2 (7.2.08). Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/10156-calypso-changing-nominals-and-or-vectors-on-its-own/#findComment-48466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Please sign in to view this quote. 30 days? Thats a long time to go. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/10156-calypso-changing-nominals-and-or-vectors-on-its-own/#findComment-48468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share Posted June 14, 2022 I've been doing that for over a decade. There is intermittent testing, but that's all. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/10156-calypso-changing-nominals-and-or-vectors-on-its-own/#findComment-48470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted June 23, 2022 Author Share Posted June 23, 2022 Once again. I add a Circle in the X axis to relocate my center of ZY. This damn software moved everything along the X axis! (This is a software internal issue, because my geometry hasn't changed). The Circle has zero relevance on the X axis, ZERO, yet my features are no longer making contact where it was programmed in the X axis. I perform a Manual Base Alignment and after, when the CNC takes over, THE PROGRAM ISNT MAKING PROPER CONTACT WITH MY FEATURES! I am OCD with geometry. This crap should not be happening. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/10156-calypso-changing-nominals-and-or-vectors-on-its-own/#findComment-48472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted June 23, 2022 Author Share Posted June 23, 2022 I've scrapped this program and made a new one. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/10156-calypso-changing-nominals-and-or-vectors-on-its-own/#findComment-48474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ow...] Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Please sign in to view this quote. Sometimes a program gets a bad algorithm or two in it and recreating the program is the only solution, not sure how many times I've had to do it but, it happens. When was the last time the CMM was calibrated by Zeiss, recently or several months? Even though I know you probably know (sometimes we don't see a forest when focusing on just a few trees) but, here are some thoughts on other things that could be happening. Set base alignment to zero could be un-checked in the alignment window? Loose probing, hair-line (actually smaller) fractures/cracks in stylus sphere or shaft can calibrate good on the sphere but, show error when actually scanning if not using dynamic tensor for qualification. Fixtures used to hold the part can move or the part in itself can move. A CMM can be knocked out of square and a probe calibration will not detect it. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/10156-calypso-changing-nominals-and-or-vectors-on-its-own/#findComment-48476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted June 23, 2022 Author Share Posted June 23, 2022 I've gone thru all the typical solutions. I think this install or version is just a Bug Fest. Its either call Orkin or Control+Alt+Sledgehammer. 🤣 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/10156-calypso-changing-nominals-and-or-vectors-on-its-own/#findComment-48478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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