[Fl...] Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Hello, I have a questions regarding with the alignment for this part. I have the plane A, Circle B , not is a problem, but for rotation is OK to use the line from this two circle (green line) and after for true position i put in the programTP raported directly to Cercle B, is correct? Another option is : constructed the line from Cercle B and Cercle C and after rotated the sisitem with angle necessary Is another option ? Thank's1.png Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/11010-alignmentplanare-rotation/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ma...] Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 I am not sure, but you can use just one circle and rotate it to nominal X or Y ( depends on fixture ), or it is like pattern. It's useless to use 3d line. I would consider start alignment to get circle C position accurately Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/11010-alignmentplanare-rotation/#findComment-53640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Er...] Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 For a base aligment I would make it... Spatial-A Planar-C X-B Y-B Z-A No constructions needed. That is just for finding the part to measure it. You could add a distance rotation to square the part like the print. For measurement I would create a line from -C- to the circle "above" it and use the line as planar, your green line. When I have tried to use this setup in a base alignment repeatability has become an issue. This was due to the holes not being repeatable. And that causes everything to "move" randomly. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/11010-alignmentplanare-rotation/#findComment-53642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Fl...] Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 Thank's for answer .I understand but not very well . In this moment i use the alignment : Spatial-A Planar-green line X-B Y-B Z-A After i put in the program ,without base alignment , directly TP 0.25 B,see photos.2.png Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/11010-alignmentplanare-rotation/#findComment-53644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Doesn't Datum C consist of 3 features? If so, keep your base alignment as is. Then, do Best Fit Bore pattern of (3) Datum C Features, allowing translation and rotation (View MMC/LMB of References). This will create a Best Fit Alignment equal to ABC for other characteristics requiring ABC Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/11010-alignmentplanare-rotation/#findComment-53646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ro...] Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Please sign in to view this quote. Just to add: It should be Best Fit with rotation only allowed. Datum -B- constrains the X-Y translational DOF. Only by using View Tolerance can you get the MMB from Datum -B- and allow translation. You have to make sure -B- is selected as the secondary datum. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/11010-alignmentplanare-rotation/#findComment-53648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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