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Does anyone know the correct evaluation method for this profile call out in Calypso? I know the Feature needs to be minimum feature, but since the profile is not called back to a datum I was told by a Zeiss applications engineer to call it back to itself for primary, secondary, and tertiary datums. That being said, do I change the evaluation method on those to minimum feature as well? Calypso automatically has them as Outer Tangential.

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I've not ever heard that answer given? If you choose "Clear Datum Reference Frame" from the
drop-down menu, I would expect to see no change in the result. If you then dropped that feature
into a Form characteristic, that should also show the same result. Just a way of double checking.
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Yes, or you can simply use the flatness characteristic as an alternate method.

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This is most likely because your system is setup to do so... Extras>>Settings>>Measurement>>Form Datum

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"Clear / Load / Save Datum Reference Frame" creates a shortcut that allows you to save the features used as datum references. Datum references on additional characteristics can be populated without having to click through each one.
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Form, flatness, and profile of a plane not referenced to a datum should all yield the same result. GD&T standards don't allow the flatness characteristic to be applied to multiple co-planar surfaces so profile without reference is typically used in place of flatness.
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Yes, but only if the profile characteristic is setup correctly.

Keep in mind that the profile characteristic requires a fully constrained DRF in order to compute a result (unless using a Free Form Surface). This is why you needed to define each datum reference within the characteristic. In your example, the only requirement needed to obtain the correct result is for the considered feature be used as the primary datum reference established with the Minimum Feature fit. The secondary and tertiary could be any other measured feature.

When using the same plane as all three datum references, Calypso ignores the secondary & tertiary datum features and inherits the remaining degrees of freedom from the base alignment.
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