[Je...] Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 I have a issue with the probe taking a point and then coming up and instead of moving to the next point it comes right back down to try and go in a straight line and go through the point its already taken. How do I fix this? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16254-probe-trying-to-go-through-part-to-get-to-next-feature/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Je...] Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 This is what Iām talking about5BF7990B-47B3-49A2-A06C-3895F28CBC96.jpeg9560767F-E24F-4EC5-97E1-FC8BA5AB7AF9.jpeg Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16254-probe-trying-to-go-through-part-to-get-to-next-feature/#findComment-90204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Jo...] Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Was this an existing program or your new creation ? I would make sure you don't have a duplicate point. Then check clearance plane for each point. There also can be a move point hidden within the strategy if an existing program. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16254-probe-trying-to-go-through-part-to-get-to-next-feature/#findComment-90206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Je...] Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. This is a newly created program. Where would I go to see if there is a hidden point somewhere. What I was looking to do was a sperate clearance move before and after each hit so it wouldn't go thru the part but I just cant figure it out. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16254-probe-trying-to-go-through-part-to-get-to-next-feature/#findComment-90208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Cl...] Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Look inside the point feature for another that isn't supposed to be there, it's happened to me before. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16254-probe-trying-to-go-through-part-to-get-to-next-feature/#findComment-90210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 This could be as simple as an incorrect Clearance Plane Example: You want to move up and over in Z, but one point has an X or Y clearance plane. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16254-probe-trying-to-go-through-part-to-get-to-next-feature/#findComment-90212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[No...] Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Another possibility: Flipped point vector. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16254-probe-trying-to-go-through-part-to-get-to-next-feature/#findComment-90214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ro...] Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Have you tried grouping these points into a sub clearance group? that way the probe does not "come up" between every point? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16254-probe-trying-to-go-through-part-to-get-to-next-feature/#findComment-90216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Je...] Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. So my clearence plane is set to Z+ but still takes the point and then comes back down and tries to go thru the point it already took. So im very confused Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16254-probe-trying-to-go-through-part-to-get-to-next-feature/#findComment-90218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Je...] Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. How would I go about finding that out? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16254-probe-trying-to-go-through-part-to-get-to-next-feature/#findComment-90220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[No...] Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. Either open each point, so you can see the yellow vector arrow in the CAD window. Or the faster way: Go to CAD settings / Strategy and set the checkmark at "show strategy when element selected" (rough translation, I don't have an English Calypso at hand right now). After that you only need to select a point feature in the features tab to see the arrow. See if one is pointing in the wrong direction. The CMM always tries to probe against the arrow. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16254-probe-trying-to-go-through-part-to-get-to-next-feature/#findComment-90222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Za...] Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 what is your retract distance?CLEARANCE- RETRACT.pdf Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16254-probe-trying-to-go-through-part-to-get-to-next-feature/#findComment-90224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Je...] Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. So if i want the probe to come up and over which way do i need the vector? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16254-probe-trying-to-go-through-part-to-get-to-next-feature/#findComment-90226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Je...] Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. 7FC84CDE-64D1-4358-AAA2-CDA49937A309.jpeg Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16254-probe-trying-to-go-through-part-to-get-to-next-feature/#findComment-90228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ow...] Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 To see the vectors, with the feature open, you may have to right click on the cad screen and select "show nominal points". If one of the vector arrows is pointing the opposite direction, it will try to go thru the part to access it. Another thing to look at, open the feature strategy and select the points list, then when the point list opens up, select "special data" to show what stylus each point is using. If one of the stylus's is not like the others, it can also cause what you're experiencing. _ Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16254-probe-trying-to-go-through-part-to-get-to-next-feature/#findComment-90230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[No...] Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. You don't have a choice there. š Vectors must always point away from the part surface. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16254-probe-trying-to-go-through-part-to-get-to-next-feature/#findComment-90232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ro...] Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I got parts that run on a vertical fixture, so i block all my edges but the 4 on top so the only freedom my probe has to go is up & over Plan>Navigation>Block Edgesjhkghghfgh.JPG Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16254-probe-trying-to-go-through-part-to-get-to-next-feature/#findComment-90234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[No...] Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Please sign in to view this quote. I had problems with too many blocked edges in the past. When the program picked up a probe from a storage bay to the far left or right of the part, I sometimes got error messages that it couldn't reach a clearance plane. I then had to move the probe behind the part in X before restarting the program. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/16254-probe-trying-to-go-through-part-to-get-to-next-feature/#findComment-90236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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