[Am...] Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Hi guys, I have a print that seems to have a datum referencing itself and im wondering if this is legitimate and how to go about doing this callout right. Datum H is the minor DIA of the thread and G is the flat plane on the underside. J and K are 180° from each other. I've had issues with these prints before so id like to get a second opinion on it before I start with the program. So not only are J and K combining to create the primary datum the true positions from that are the datums. And also wouldn't you want J-K to be the tertiary datum here? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/17792-datum-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
[sh...] Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Are J and K slot features? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/17792-datum-question/#findComment-99862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Am...] Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 No they are tabs sticking out from the part. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/17792-datum-question/#findComment-99864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[sh...] Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 All the info I can find is a co-axial axis are typically done on Cylindrical type features. Typically co-axial datum construction are used for checking runout. Even if these callouts aren't legal, I can see this still being able to be called out Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/17792-datum-question/#findComment-99866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ma...] Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Measure a circle on -J- and one on -K- and create a 3d Line between the two. The call out refers to the centerline of J-K. Then check the features back to J-K centerline. Mark Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/17792-datum-question/#findComment-99868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Am...] Posted September 11, 2019 Author Share Posted September 11, 2019 J and K aren't round though, its like a block. I've created symmetry points on them and recalled them into a line. And I also ran into pretty much an identical FCF online but it was a part like the one shane posted. It makes some sense in that co-axiality example but here its just weird to me, I feel like GH J-K would make a little more sense. But until I get some clarification on this from the customer im going to go ahead and use the center line created from the symmetry points. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/17792-datum-question/#findComment-99870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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