[Me...] Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 How do I report this callout of of a profile? Thanks in advance. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/18174-how-do-i-report-this-callout/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Since there are no Datums, can you not just use a Plane and do Flatness Reference? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/18174-how-do-i-report-this-callout/#findComment-102242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ap...] Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Can Calypso do the unit based calculation automatically? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/18174-how-do-i-report-this-callout/#findComment-102244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Me...] Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 Does anyone know if some where in Calypso I can report this? They want my report. How do I demonstrate the call-out? I understand the profile of a surface. To me that's not the problem. It's the .0004 / 1.000 that gets me. I suppose I can do flatness ref and keep all my hits within 1.00". I see what they want. There is a trough running around and there probably putting a gasket in. They want a tight seal. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/18174-how-do-i-report-this-callout/#findComment-102246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ch...] Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Do they mean .0004" total surface profile per sq. inch? I would they should have calculated sq area of the 2 surfaces and allowed one tolerance. I understand it's not exactly the same. I would probably calculate the entire area and apply the .0004" * number of sq inches, etc. I've never seen this tolerance on profile. I'm not sure Calypso can handle it per local area, etc. Other than that, you can scan 1 sq. inch segments and apply the .0004", however that doesn't account for all possible sq in segments on the surfaces. Would definitely need software to calculate that. Good luck. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/18174-how-do-i-report-this-callout/#findComment-102248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Me...] Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 Chris, That's what I was thinking. Scan 1" squares. But since it's 12" x 12" that's 48 squares. What do you think about scanning both collecting them into a plane then checking each profile against that? Or creating a theoretical and checking profile against it? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/18174-how-do-i-report-this-callout/#findComment-102250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Br...] Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Do what Richard suggested. Flatness reference. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/18174-how-do-i-report-this-callout/#findComment-102252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Me...] Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 Management ended up calling the engineer. Answer was it never had any flatness call-out and they were getting them all potato chip. So some guy, this engineer said, " It wasn't me!", threw that call-out on the print. So the now are giving us .007" flatness instead. My boss also told him that I queried it here on the post and that the response was not good. Now my next job will be to pry a waiver out of the engineer. Ugh. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/18174-how-do-i-report-this-callout/#findComment-102254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Br...] Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Please sign in to view this quote. Well that's unfortunate. The print now contradicts itself. There was already flatness of .0004/1.000. That's how you control flatness over interrupted surfaces. edit: Maybe I misunderstood. Are you saying they got rid of the Profile tolerance and added a flatness? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/18174-how-do-i-report-this-callout/#findComment-102256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Me...] Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 Yes they got rid of the profile and changed it to flatness. But we may not get a new print. So the waiver will need to come into play. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/18174-how-do-i-report-this-callout/#findComment-102258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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