[Ke...] Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 10+ Years experience on a CMM, and LOTO has never been an issue... but... is there a LOTO procedure that anyone uses? Or, is there a sound justification for not requiring one? In my experience, the problem is getting the CMM to move again, not keeping it from moving 🤣 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19278-loto-lock-out-tag-out/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 The easiest way to accomplish this is with the key switch on your controller or it might be on the operator end of the Y axis. Turn the key to the "0" position and pull the key. Now your joysticks and controller won't move. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19278-loto-lock-out-tag-out/#findComment-108484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Please sign in to view this quote. Assuming your machine has a key. DuraMax, O-Inspect don't have one and late model Contura's don't have one either. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19278-loto-lock-out-tag-out/#findComment-108486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[No...] Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 I honestly admit, before this post I had never heard of LOTO. I had to google the meaning. 🤣 Sounds like a new swollen-headed name for a self-evident thing, allowing safety inspectors, who already pushed safety to a ridiculous limit, to further justify their existence. Sorry for grumbling, I'm speaking out of bad experience. 😡 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19278-loto-lock-out-tag-out/#findComment-108488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Ha Ha Norbert. It really is a serious issue on the machine tool side. Not so much on CMMs's. Technicians can be working on a machine out of sight and someone else will start up the machine. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19278-loto-lock-out-tag-out/#findComment-108490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Me...] Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Ha, Tom is right. We have had Process Techs fired for not correctly following our procedures of LOTO. This is the first I've heard for a CMM though. Seems outright silly. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19278-loto-lock-out-tag-out/#findComment-108492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 There is a lockout on the main power switch. When it's in the off position, there's a place where a tech can put a small padlock so the machine cannot be turned on inadvertently. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19278-loto-lock-out-tag-out/#findComment-108494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mi...] Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 In addition to the main power switch our procedure also covers the compressed air supply that has a lockable handle and also the air dryer. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19278-loto-lock-out-tag-out/#findComment-108496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ke...] Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 Thanks all. We did incorporate the main power switch, and the air supply... just hope the procedure does not walk over the Zeiss technicians procedures. From what I hear (from the tech) that can create another cumbersome mess, procedurally... I don't think I have ever seen a tech shut off the air to to their job, so I'm hoping there won't be an issue Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19278-loto-lock-out-tag-out/#findComment-108498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Tr...] Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Our LOTO simply has us unplugging the whole machine. Although adding in a lockout requirement for the air supply would be better (as mentioned above). We are able to cut off the air supply with a handle by the wall. We just don't explicitly state its use for the LOTO of our CMMs. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19278-loto-lock-out-tag-out/#findComment-108500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ke...] Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 Please sign in to view this quote. We have the same cutoff lever. When the air is cut off, a cover is placed on it and locked, so someone doesn't turn the air on accidentally. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/19278-loto-lock-out-tag-out/#findComment-108502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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