[Cl...] Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 12 equally spaced .068 ID spheres made with a form tool. Measured (sphere) with two scanned circle paths with a 0.5mm stylus. Majority measure in tolerance, but some don't? Same exact strategy/evaluation (MIE) but not consistent??? Any thoughts? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/20072-form-tool-measurment/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Me...] Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I have this same issue with form tools. 1.) There not perfect. Grinding form tools is a risk. Also they break down. At such a small dia. you will get some deflection, ( a little wobble). 2.) Try points. I've found a scattering of points 8, 10, 12 some times pulls in better results. Or add in a third scan. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/20072-form-tool-measurment/#findComment-113458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 How much angle coverage is there? I once tried to measure Max Inscribed/Outer Tangential on some hip cups but the sphere was less than 180°. Zeiss said it was not possible. The sphere had to be greater than 180°. That was many years ago. Not sure if this still applies. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/20072-form-tool-measurment/#findComment-113460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Cl...] Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 Tom, about 160 deg coverage. Thanks Kevin. I stayed away from points due to time constraints. Production has decided to use the MarSurf instead. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/20072-form-tool-measurment/#findComment-113462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Da...] Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 You need a minimum of 3 circles for a sphere. More is better ! Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/20072-form-tool-measurment/#findComment-113464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Please sign in to view this quote. Need or that's your personal preference? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/20072-form-tool-measurment/#findComment-113466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ma...] Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I would use one of two options if this were me. Option 1 Measure one sphere, then setup rotated alignments to the center of each sphere (either create each one or loop an alignment). I would then copy the sphere and use Keep Position as I assign the correct alignment. This way each sphere is exactly the same. Option 2 Use self centering, of course, using the correct ball size. I would use this for position. Mark Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/20072-form-tool-measurment/#findComment-113468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Da...] Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Tom, In cross section that would be 2 points to check a circle.... Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/20072-form-tool-measurment/#findComment-113470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Please sign in to view this quote. ❓ ❓ ❓ Sorry. Not getting it. I only need 4 points to calculate a sphere. Why 3 circles? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/20072-form-tool-measurment/#findComment-113472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Da...] Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 if yo draw 2 circles in space, separated by a distance , You can fit a sphere and a cone through those circles. You can also fit a various elliptical shapes. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/20072-form-tool-measurment/#findComment-113474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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