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In a half-remembered dream I remember being able to have a feature that has its own independent pattern, and then if that feature lived in a group I could place a pattern on the group which would essentially pattern a pattern. 

If that is still possible, I cannot get it to work. It only sees the pattern on the feature, even if I tell it to measure the group. 

Thoughts?

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Are you running in characteristics order or feature order? I would imagine, that it might only work if you ran the plan in feature order.

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If I am following this correctly.

I created a 6-hole pattern around a 1 inch BC.

Then I created a pattern of the 6 holes (as its own pattern) for 6 times around an 8 inch BC.

I was unable to get the secondary pattern to function, it only seems to see the primary pattern.

Test program attached in v2022.

Pattern in a Pattrn test v2022.zip

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I've tried something in 5mins yesterday and had no luck. Even brackets did not help.

Not sure if it can be done.

Never tried macro, but seem no work either

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Well I managed to do it following Zeiss KB article :   https://portal.zeiss.com/knowledge-base?id=523014   with the use of  'macros'

 

They claim patterning a pattern won't work - I think I can understand why. However do I think someone on here could do it with a bit of crafty PCM ? - probably ..

 

Anyways - program attached for reference - saved in Calypso 2023- its what I use as my main version - if you need v2022 let me know.

 

Not ideal I realize, but works !

 

 Good luck !

 

 

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Pattern in a Pattrn test v2023.zip

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Nice work, Chris!

You are hereby awarded:

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I hope that you are sincerely appreciated in your workplace.  You've got skills to pay the bills.

 

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Thanks Jeff ... I dont take much credit , just followed the Knowledge Base - I do have a knack for digging for answers until I exhaust all avenues.

 

fading slightly off topic - when are forum "likes" coming back ?  Jeff - What do you think they should be called? Likes? Kudos? Props?? 😄 Something else ??

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Great questions, Chris.

I think something similar to LinkedIn would be professional yet engaging (Like, Love, Insightful, Celebrate, etc).  The best scenario would be to have Zeiss consult with Social Platform Engineers or UX/UI Designers.

Engagement = growth

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Here's another solution - made a theoretical feature to align to (+X) {pattern this feature 6x60° for REF)  Alignment is now patterned.

Circle small hole with  - choose Alignment *1

Circle small hole with  - choose Alignment *2

Circle small hole with  - choose Alignment *3

Circle small hole with  - choose Alignment *4

Circle small hole with  - choose Alignment *5

Circle small hole with  - choose Alignment *6

 

If you're not a huge fan of macros - I like that we have the option - just like to keep everything contained in same program when possible.

This may be quicker programming wise as well. So can't pattern a pattern BUT can pattern an alignment.  I still think there's more of a 'one shot' way of doing this - just need to think about it some more.

 

 

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Pattern in a Pattrn test v2022 V2.zip

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How to apply a different evaluation on a diameter measured with pattern? 

I would like to avaluate the same diameter with GAUSS and Maximum inscribed.

 

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Hi Miguel.  There are a couple different ways to apply different evaluation methods to the instances of a pattern.

One method is to create a diameter characteristic and recall only one instance of your pattern:


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That is wicked! I want to use this to leave some REALLY confusing programs in my wake...sorry next guy! Unfortunately I just finished a task where I could have used this, no points in going back now 😞

 

Also, lets get the thumbs up called "Hero Biscuits"!

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Absolutely.   Or M.E. Biscuits (Maximum Effort)               MaximumEffort.png.27729b3258037ca30d00c62599509992.png

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Thank you for your work on this, Chris. 

I guess I should have known there would be KB article about this. Hahahaha. 

Everyone's assistance and input is greatly valued and appreciated. Cheers. 

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Thanks!

If I place a condition in the feature to evaluate a pattern diameter in two ways: Gauss and maximum inscribed, will it work?

Best regards,

Miguel

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a bit off topic, but putting this condition on 2 characteristics with diff evals might be a better option - if you needed to evaluate the 2 sizes on the fly - it could theoretically possibly be done on the features side, with either recalling points and/or PCM. technically conditions can only be on characteristics I beleive.

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Also sorry for the Offtopic, but it might be interesting for someone, if you open the "version" file within the inspection folder you can edit the CALYPSO revision to your current version and often make inspections "compatible" again.

 

But please note this doesn't work every time (depending on the Characteristics for example) also if there is a bigger gap between the revisions it could cause issues within the CNC run.

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You don't even need to edit the file.  Just delete the version file.  It will create a new one when you open the measurement plan and save it.

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