请问各位！蔡司三坐标安全平面.如何才能像海克斯康一样.删除元素和元素之前的安全平面

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Hello Chaowei.

I was having difficulty translating all of your text to English, so that I could understand your question. 

Could you please repost your question in text? 

It appears that you're asking a question related to clearance data and a similar feature for navigation in PC-DMIS.

Thanks, and welcome to the forums.  It's great to have you here.

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I have too problems with translating into meaningful text.

I think on newer versions of Calypso you can not delete / not use safety plane, but you can have sub clearance planes, which are used defined.
But if you are asking about complex safety path, then it's not easy to do it right and safe.

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I can't see it very well, but it looks like the normal vector of that feature is pointing "up" in the Calypso image (toward Y+ of the base alignment)

Clearence Distance follows the normal vector of the feature.  If you want to use your 2mm Clearence Distance you'll need to transform that feature so its Z vector is pointing the direction you'd like to clear toward.  I suspect you're crashing on approach to the feature.

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"Excuse me, everyone! How can I delete the safety plane between elements in ZEISS CMM, just like in Hexagon?"

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Thank you very much for your reply! Since I currently use both Hexagon CMM and ZEISS CMM, I've found that Hexagon has many very useful features because they have optimizations for the Chinese market. For example:

Arrays are independent elements.

Safety planes can be deleted.

Coordinate system functions.

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If I understand your request correctly, Calypso handles this through the use of Sub-Clearance planes. Features that share the same probe and Sub-clearance plane will navigate using the subclearance plane instead of the full primary clearance plane. There are 2 possible subclearance plane behaviors-1 in which you define a distance for that plane, in which case the probe will retract to that distance between features. The other is to leave the distance undefined, at which point the probe will move point to point without a clearance plane move at all (it still respects clearance and retract distance however). It sounds like the behavior you are looking for is the 2nd type.

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Zeiss killing the blank clearance was the most disappointing things they ever did to me. 

 

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Yes! Kevin, amazing that you understood what I meant! I’m really happy! I’m just not sure if a Zeiss CMM can handle it."

“太棒了” → "great job" / "amazing"

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"I apologize, but I haven't come across this issue before. You may consider providing feedback to Zeiss; perhaps they will address and fix the bug."

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Here is a link to instructions for what Kevin is describing, if that is helpful: https://portal.zeiss.com/knowledge-base?id=1793299

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很抱歉马丁！我还是打不开这个链接！

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After changing your Location do logout and login again - that should work - i've tried it with english language and location and that worked after i logged out and logged in again

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这个方法在中国行不通.你也知道中国实行网络管制.还是要谢谢你马丁

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OK then here is something - hope it helps

zeiss-knowledge-base-id-1793299.pdf

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Hi Chaowei.

I appreciate that you're trying out a new software, which can feel quite foreign and uncomfortable at first.

I have many friends who are PC-DMIS programmers, and we have 'lively' discourse on the strengths and weaknesses of both software.

Good news: All of the functions you mentioned are available in Calypso.

1.  Arrays can be defined as independent elements by using the recall feature points option, or by using code to define a specific instance(s) in an array:  circle-pattern(*) becomes circle-pattern(1), etc.

2. Clearance (safety) planes can be constrained or bypassed using the "block edges" menu.

It is also possible to navigate by position points only (called 'move points" in PC-DMIS).  However, this is rarely an effective choice, because one of the major strengths of Calypso is that it optimizes navigation, which saves loads of time for the programmer.  Honestly, the main instance where I see people navigate by position points only is when they are former PC-DMIS programmers and their muscle-memory is screaming at them that they need to plan out navigation manually.

3. Coordinate system functionality is fully available in Calypso.  Secondary alignments, best-fitting, and numerous other alignment types exist, and newer versions of Calypso make working in a particular coordinate system simple and intuitive.

I encourage you to put time in learning Calypso.  It will feel strange at first.  You will miss the familiarity and muscle-memory of your previous software.  However, I think you will be pleasantly surprised by the powerful, feature-based architecture in Calypso.  It is the most capable metrology solution for managing customer geometry and for creating an effective handshake between the CMM and measurement program.

Please keep visiting this forum and asking questions.  It's extremely valuable for Zeiss to hear the experience of other uses, especially those new to Calypso.

Best,

Jeff Frodermann

 

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感谢你的帮助！马丁.我一会尝试下是否可行.

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感谢你的回复!杰夫.是否能做个PPT让我参考下.我希望PC和蔡司俩种软件都精通.这对我未来职业规划很有帮助.

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很感谢你的PDF文件.马丁.这个文件里面的方法正是我目前经常用到的.太繁琐.所以才询问大家能不能像PC-DMIS那样利用逼近回退.因为PC-DMIS这个功能太实用了.反而CALYPSO 2023里面并未有这个功能.（子安全平面.在不同元素之间还要重新设置.这样会加大我编程时间.）就像PC-DMIS里面有很多功能更新的很多「列如：1.阵列比CALYPSO好用2.安全平面可以删除3.查找最近CAD元素4.圆路径扫描的起始和结束很好用.CALYPSO总是拖不动不过灵活5.PC-DMIS文本编程模式页面可以很清晰看到详细数据方便更改.」这是我用过款软件总结出来的！我并不是批判任意一个软件.各有各的优点和缺点.只希望可以相互借鉴并更新这些功能！

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Thank you very much for the PDF file, Martin. The methods in this file are exactly what I frequently use now, but they are too cumbersome. That's why I asked if it's possible to use approach/retract like in PC-DMIS, because this feature in PC-DMIS is extremely practical. However, CALYPSO 2023 does not seem to have this feature (sub-safe planes still require resetting between different elements, which significantly increases my programming time).

Just like in PC-DMIS, many features have been updated and are very useful. For example:

1. Arrays are easier to use than in CALYPSO.

2. Safe planes can be deleted.

3. Finding the nearest CAD element is convenient.

4. The start and end points of circular path scanning are very user-friendly, whereas CALYPSO always feels rigid and not flexible enough to drag.

5. PC-DMIS's text programming mode interface clearly displays detailed data, making it easy to modify.

These are my observations after using both software packages. I am not criticizing either one; each has its own strengths and weaknesses. I simply hope they can learn from each other and update these features.