[Co...] Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Hi all, I am having some difficulty with this and I feel like there has to be some step I am missing that would make it a whole lot easier than trying to manually adjust every styli so that it visually appears to make contact with the part as it should. I just created a new 4PointStar that has 12 styli to pick from. It looks like everything works in the +X, +Y, -X and -Y but as soon as I rotate the head to the A45_B0 or A90_B0, none of my Styli are working as they should be. It looks like they Geometry worked as it should when I built it up in the Stylus System Creator but it only lets me build up those first 4 styli and the remainder needs to be imported through the RC File. Importing went fine but functionally, they aren't working. Does anyone have advice on best way to approach or fix this? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/25547-importing-a-star-probe-in-simulation-geometry-not-correct/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
[gr...] Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I have the same issue it will only do x+/- and Y=+/- correctly Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/25547-importing-a-star-probe-in-simulation-geometry-not-correct/#findComment-145269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I gave up on importing certain types of probes and having it correct. I just adjust each one as needed and move on. You could create a separate probe for each of the star styli at the specified angle in SSC, import with correct geometry and then copy past to your official probe. I do this for Disk probes. Create a probe with a Ø2mm sphere tip in the same configuration as the Disk setup. Create separate angles Use the coords and vectors and paste to my official Disk probe. Works good that way. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/25547-importing-a-star-probe-in-simulation-geometry-not-correct/#findComment-145381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Do...] Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Have you checked out this article on knowledge base? I seem recall having this issue back when I was using an RDS head and the fix was following the step about transferring stylus data. Hope this helps! https://portal.zeiss.com/knowledge-base?id=910456 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/25547-importing-a-star-probe-in-simulation-geometry-not-correct/#findComment-145695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Lu...] Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 The link dosent work Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/25547-importing-a-star-probe-in-simulation-geometry-not-correct/#findComment-146273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Lu...] Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Hi Richard Please sign in to view this quote. could you please explain us more Thanks Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/25547-importing-a-star-probe-in-simulation-geometry-not-correct/#findComment-146275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Lu...] Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Please sign in to view this quote. Could you please describe us with details the process? in stylus system creator i cant generate positions for the RDS head Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/25547-importing-a-star-probe-in-simulation-geometry-not-correct/#findComment-146279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 See attached SSC file. When in Stylus System Creator, open the file. Initial settings are shown in image: SSC Setup-1.jpg Using the "RDS holder" and "Main Axis Angle" dialog box, you can set the "A" axis rotation. For whatever reason, it has to start at -90° to be orientated to the CMM XYZ axis. To set the "B" axis rotation select your RDS probe adaptor (Mine is shown in image SSC Setup-2.jpg). With these two settings shown you can articulate to any angle in the 2.5° increments allowed. After setting A and B rotations, save the file as a new name for that articulation. You can then import that file into Calypso and use the data for your actual probe, once completed, simply delete the newly imported probe. Wash, rinse, repeat. P.S. My probe in the SSC file is generic, setup what you need. Disk probes are slightly different, but only in the choice of setting up a generic disk. Articulation Setup.ssc Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/25547-importing-a-star-probe-in-simulation-geometry-not-correct/#findComment-146299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Lu...] Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) Hi richard Tanks a lot for the help I will test it and let you know Tanks again is a great help for the comunity Edited February 17 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/25547-importing-a-star-probe-in-simulation-geometry-not-correct/#findComment-146301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Lu...] Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Hi richard i follow your guide now is better but there still something off as you can see on the picture after i imported the new position on calypso and copy the values on the main file do i need add extra compensation?? Please see the attached picture Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/25547-importing-a-star-probe-in-simulation-geometry-not-correct/#findComment-146313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Do...] Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Hi Luis, Please see screenshots from Zeiss' knowledge base article. You will build your probe system in Stylus System Creator and then add your desired angles through Calypso. Try giving this a shot and let me know if it works for you. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/25547-importing-a-star-probe-in-simulation-geometry-not-correct/#findComment-146317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 You do not need the RDS holder. It starts with the RDS-XXT 18p. If it is off after that then most likely your offsets for your machine tab are incorrect. Make sure both your MasterProbe and Stylus System are built correctly. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/25547-importing-a-star-probe-in-simulation-geometry-not-correct/#findComment-146319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Lu...] Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Please sign in to view this quote. Hi Don, thank you for the update i did exactly as described and my values of the masterprobe are correct im using last version of Calypso and is not workings as expected as you can see on the picture Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/25547-importing-a-star-probe-in-simulation-geometry-not-correct/#findComment-146321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Lu...] Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Please sign in to view this quote. Hi richard what you mean with (your offsets for your machine tab are incorrect)? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/25547-importing-a-star-probe-in-simulation-geometry-not-correct/#findComment-146323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Your offsets shown have the 60mm offset applied to the Z, and the 188.1 applied to the Y. They should be swapped, and the Y should be the -Y, and the Z should be the -Z. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/25547-importing-a-star-probe-in-simulation-geometry-not-correct/#findComment-146325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Lu...] Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Please sign in to view this quote. Im sorry richar to avoind missunderstandings what are you refering in the masterprobe tab as i show above or in the probe file? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/25547-importing-a-star-probe-in-simulation-geometry-not-correct/#findComment-146329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Lu...] Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Please sign in to view this quote. Hello Richard sorry to bother but could you explain exactly what is need to be applied? im trying figure it out but i cant understand i inserted the values on the main probe file after import the ssc file with the angular position i needed. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/25547-importing-a-star-probe-in-simulation-geometry-not-correct/#findComment-146367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Lu...] Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Hi guys i finally make it work thanks for the support and help Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/25547-importing-a-star-probe-in-simulation-geometry-not-correct/#findComment-146387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/25547-importing-a-star-probe-in-simulation-geometry-not-correct/#findComment-146409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Lu...] Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Thanks Richard i didnt notice calypso swaped the Y an Z is running now as expected Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/25547-importing-a-star-probe-in-simulation-geometry-not-correct/#findComment-146423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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