Calypso 8.0: Planner - Simulation

[[Ri...]]

Just an FYI - Planner/Simulation will not longer simulate correctly if the model for your part is still set to machine coordinate zero (top-left corner). In the past, this was never a requirement, but it appears that it is forced in 8.0 now. 

You can move this at any point, it will not have any effect on your program if you do it before or after it is programmed. 

Before model is moved (hard to see, but essentially it just doesn't move). 

 

After model is moved. 

 

In the Measurement Plan Simulation - select Modify CAD Model - on the Positioning tab - select your CAD Model - enter the appropriate Translation values (you can always start with half of your measuring volume) - click Apply. 

[[Ch...]]

Perhaps in an effort to make the CMM behave more realistically and not move outside it's normal travel range, etc ??

[[Ri...]]

Maybe, but it would be nice to have an option to disable it. 

In training, students have to use Simulation, and now this adds an additional step for a student. 

[[Ka...]]

Richard,

Thank you for your research and the short videos.
 

Fortunately, we have not had to simulate any machines so far, so the component was and is always at the machine origin. The displacement has rarely worked properly for us. In most cases, the coordinate system was displaced and this displacement could not be reversed.

However, the "old" Planner version did not correctly simulate exceeding the measuring space (end stop), nor did it detect collisions with its own geometry (table, side parts, probe rack). Our CONTURA 700x700x1000 was not available as a simulation model. I don't know whether this variant is included in CALYPSO 8.0. But if the planner no longer works without the correct CMM model, there's no point in installing it in the first place.
It is not always necessary to load and simulate large graphics. I believe it is imperative to switch off the machine simulation.

[[Ri...]]

Karsten, 

The machine simulation is turned on by default, but regardless you have to perform the translation with or without it on. I only showed the machine in this case to showcase why it wasn't working correctly. 

[[Wo...]]

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Noticed the same thing, took me a nice few minutes to figure out what's going on.

[[Ni...]]

We noticed the same thing a few months back (model must be entirely within the virtual machine measuring volume.) I was actually on a call with Zeiss regarding several issues with this being one of them and inquired about potential remedies (there isn't anything useful en masse). It's pretty ridiculous they made this a requirement for the simulation to function. When a model is imported it always defaults to machine zero (with no way to default it somewhere else.) I was even having problems where the CAD will revert back to machine zero for no reason at all, so even if you save the program with the model away from zero it can default back to it, rending simulation broken again.

We decided not to upgrade because of this and several other issues with discovered with the version. I mean, we have 5000+ programs, so if we update to version 8 the simulation is essentially broken on every one of them unless the model is moved (and apparently, we can't even reliably move it permanently...)

Edited February 13

[[Pa...]]

It's frustrating to pay as much money as we do every year to be beta testers of undocumented software changes.

Thanks Richard.

[[Te...]]

The RDS Head you have to put it to the table and then offset if 50mm in Z to get to work correctly

[[Ro...]]

New service pack out, and Planner still broken. Choose just to see baseplate, and it shows bottom half of a CMM, and the actual baseplate is hidden inside of it somewhere. Rotary table also is hidden inside of machine. 8.0 is looking more and more like a skip it revision. 

[[Ka...]]

Robert,
I didn’t expect anything else!
It’s simply unbelievable that Zeiss delivers such poor-quality software.