[Ri...] Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 I have this one stubborn program, every time I open it, I am warned that a probe is not available. Combo86R-2 It is not used in the program; it has never been used in the program. Any ideas on how I may be able to find a rogue entry in some file? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Du...] Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Have you checked the stylus system dropdown in the measurement plan editor features? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Th...] Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 I know that probe names show up in the inspection file if I search for them. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ke...] Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Have you checked which stylus is used under "Meaasurement Plan Editor Features"? Or are there any known position points that might have been misassigned? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted June 4 Author Share Posted June 4 (edited) I have checked the obvious, Measurement Plan Editor, no entries shown. I did find entries in "inspec" and "inspection" files. Editing those entries caused some weird problems (Altered the entries to be Combo86R). 😂 inspec file: Please sign in to view this quote. inspection file: Please sign in to view this quote. I could not find an "#identifier" within plus or minus 30 lines of the "Combo86R-2" line. Edited June 4 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Do...] Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 CMM positions and start/end park positions are sneaky places where probes can be assigned, but are not visible via the Plan Editor. 4 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted June 5 Author Share Posted June 5 Screen shot of used probes in the program, not showing this Combo86R-2 which is an actual probe. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ch...] Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Please sign in to view this quote. could also be hiding in an 'intermediate point' in a strategy , perhaps you wont see that in the plan editor. I've had this happen occasionally while opening and reviewing strategies etc. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ke...] Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 You could try assigning a different stylus system and then changing it back, to try and overwrite any hidden problems 🤷♂️ 1 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ch...] Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 That was my next suggestion as well, this might cover any intermediate points that are mis-assigned, if you just re-assign all probes in the test editor... Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Br...] Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Another place to check is your CMM END PARK POSTION there might be a Stylus/system in there that no longer exists. 2 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted June 8 Author Share Posted June 8 I am not or have not used park positions in this program. 1 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[ni...] Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 with a copy of your program, defined new elements for the aligment and erase all the other element and try to launch the program, if the problem is still there it's not cause of an element, if the problem disappear, do the same thing again and erease just half of the other element (and a quarter and a 1/8....) to find the problem element. 1 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Je...] Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Sounds like the stowaway onboard your program is doing a good job at hiding. You've checked the obvious places. Any stones left unturned as pcm in comments or stylus qualifications or shady, dimly lit taverns? 2 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted June 9 Author Share Posted June 9 Please sign in to view this quote. I found the probe name in inspset and inspection files, removing those entries caused unexpected results that made the program crash. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ma...] Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 Hello Please sign in to view this username. , if you want (and if its allowed to) you can send me the program via PM and i can take i look. Best Regards Marcel 1 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Jo...] Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 I have run into this as well and am curious about the fix in your situation. One suggestion that I can provide is that sometimes groups can hold the stylus name in them, even when not all the sub-features are set to the stylus system. You should have stumbled upon this in the MMPE, so I don't believe this helps you. You could try removing any grouped features and regrouping them maybe. 1 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ma...] Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 Please sign in to view this username. I've found that in "inspection" file there is twice section of "OMTecSafety" in which is one probe system and i secondary there is another probe system. All other features have only one definiton of that "OMTecSafety" Not sure how that happened, but Richard has my findings even which feature it is, so i hope it will be founded. 3 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted June 10 Author Share Posted June 10 Please sign in to view this quote. I did not think about groups, according to Martin, the offending feature is in a group. 1 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted June 10 Author Share Posted June 10 Please sign in to view this quote. Unfortunately, I can't send you this program, I had to prove US citizenship to be able to work on this project. Its T.S.N.S. Top Secret Ninja Sh*t. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mi...] Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Do you know the feature which causes the problem? To my mind the technology of this feature has another safety data entry. If the probe system of this one differs to the assigned system of the safety data on top of the technology, this special probe system won't show up at the measurement plan editor features and so on. The only message you get is that this probe system is not available. 1 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted June 10 Author Share Posted June 10 It may be "Plane1ba". Martin's data seems to lean on that feature. And I just found the problem. Inside of Plane1ba is an extra Clearance Data and guess which probe is attached to it. I have no clue how an extra Clearance Data was added or how it would have been assigned a probe that isn't being used. 🫣 4 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted June 12 Author Share Posted June 12 What I found. 2 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ma...] Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 I was able to find it too ( created dummy program and overwritten two files ) I am still working on my app - certainly it's not showing all things 1 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/26774-cmm-program-wants-a-probe-that-isnt-in-the-program/#findComment-151725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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