[Je...] Posted October 13, 2024 Share Posted October 13, 2024 . Okay, Zeiss, spill the tea. What is this: . . Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
[No...] Posted October 14, 2024 Share Posted October 14, 2024 My guess Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Da...] Posted October 14, 2024 Share Posted October 14, 2024 I haven’t seen it before, but it looks "simply" like a recessed VAST XXT Sensor to make more out of your machine volume. An ingenious but somewhat lazy idea that allows Zeiss to use an XXT sensor without any technical change in a new way. It seems logical: they’ll make the most money with hardware that changes as little as possible. Could replace the regular XXT in the future. Nice thing is that the whole gizmo serves as a protection for the XXT sensor in case of a crash. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ch...] Posted October 14, 2024 Share Posted October 14, 2024 I've heard rumors of a 'hot swappable' RDS for Prismo MASS ... so you could switch between fixed or RDS on the fly... not just ZAS but full RDS .. also do you have the link to this ? found it .. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/zeiss-in ... er_desktop Yeah I think they might release what I mentioned at the summit... kind of excited, however that looks like an odd looking RDS. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Je...] Posted October 14, 2024 Author Share Posted October 14, 2024 Please sign in to view this quote. . Hey Chris. Yes, the post on LinkedIn is where I saw this. I get excited about new tech, especially when it comes to CMM sensors. It's great to see Zeiss innovating, and I look forward to learning more about this. I applaud advancement, whether that is on existing devices like the XXT or otherwise. It's healthy to experiment and take calculated risks. It's okay to fail, as often this leads to learning and iterating forward. The value-add comes from having a culture of innovation and adaptability. . Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ch...] Posted October 14, 2024 Share Posted October 14, 2024 The image kind of looks like a ROTOS huh ? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Je...] Posted October 14, 2024 Author Share Posted October 14, 2024 Please sign in to view this quote. Perhaps, but I would place my bet on an XXT style tactile scanning sensor. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ch...] Posted October 14, 2024 Share Posted October 14, 2024 I need a Calypso AI version ...stat .. probably will be a while, they have to GD&T Engine developed first. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Cl...] Posted October 14, 2024 Share Posted October 14, 2024 Maybe it's got the angle/rotation abilities of the RDS/XXT with the weight/length capabilities of the Vast XT? That would be nice. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ow...] Posted October 17, 2024 Share Posted October 17, 2024 Maybe something to compete with Renishaw's 5-axis Revo 2 head? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted October 18, 2024 Share Posted October 18, 2024 Please sign in to view this quote. https://www.zeiss.com/metrology/us/syst ... -mode.html It is my understanding this is scanning faster than Revo. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Da...] Posted October 18, 2024 Share Posted October 18, 2024 My money is still on the bet that it's a "recycled" XXT. I took the liberty of illustrating it in a short https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/074uLkx9AO-hDvdsja5F1m7Hw#XXT. I always thought the XXT probe body took up too much valuable measuring volume on smaller machines. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted October 18, 2024 Share Posted October 18, 2024 With everything getting smaller, I'd like to see Zeiss work on a smaller sensor. Maybe even use it on a smaller version of RDS on DuraMax. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Cl...] Posted October 18, 2024 Share Posted October 18, 2024 Small huh? I had to measure (with a Contura RDS/XXT) a 4 or 5mm sphere that had five 0.5mm Ø bores in it. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ow...] Posted October 18, 2024 Share Posted October 18, 2024 Please sign in to view this quote. I know very little about the Revo, but I've got an ex-coworker who brags about how long of a probe the articulating head can swing accurately and less probe changes needed during a program. He didn't elaborate, but he also said it does have some downfalls. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Je...] Posted October 18, 2024 Author Share Posted October 18, 2024 Please sign in to view this quote. . Daniel, I watched your video, and I think your assumption is accurate. Thanks. If so, this is definitely a value-add. Updating the center of rotation for the XXT closer to the center of mass would result in more clearance, less frequent collisions and less inertia and damage when collisions do occur. . Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Wo...] Posted October 19, 2024 Share Posted October 19, 2024 Maybe a sensor that rotates to any degree, not just 2.5degrees increments*dreams* Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mi...] Posted October 23, 2024 Share Posted October 23, 2024 It's on the Zeiss website now on the Spectrum only at the moment. They are calling it a Compact XXT TL3 Increased measuring volume with VAST XXT compact design https://www.zeiss.com/metrology/en/syst ... amily.html Interesting. That mount is special to the spectrum though, so are they going to have a version for the big machines with the dovetail mount to fully replace the RDS with this? Hell, if they made a DuraMax version I'd be crunching some numbers to see about retrofitting our 23 DuraMax's to it... Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted October 23, 2024 Share Posted October 23, 2024 Please sign in to view this quote. Absolutely.... 23? Are you in New Hampshire? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mi...] Posted October 23, 2024 Share Posted October 23, 2024 Please sign in to view this quote. Nope Ontario. I actually rarely deal with Zeiss Directly as there is a certified supplier up here that also does service and repairs. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted October 23, 2024 Share Posted October 23, 2024 Please sign in to view this quote. Good people. I know them well. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mi...] Posted October 23, 2024 Share Posted October 23, 2024 Please sign in to view this quote. Yes they are, I learned much from them over the years now. It's also nice to always get the same 3 service techs all the time. They know our machines, they know our plant. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Th...] Posted October 23, 2024 Share Posted October 23, 2024 Overall seems like a much better design than the standard RDS. Lower tangential speed at the adapter plate and less strain on the motor not having to swing the entire XXT around from one end. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted October 23, 2024 Share Posted October 23, 2024 Introducing the New XXT-TL0.3VAST-XXT-TL0.3.jpg Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Je...] Posted October 23, 2024 Share Posted October 23, 2024 Please sign in to view this quote. Such a system exists and has for several years. Angle increments are adjusted in seconds, not degrees. While it doesn't index on 2 axes like an RDS, use of this with an RT allows for infinite angle adjustment. Available in -90, 0 and +90 plate orientations. [img][/img] [img][/img] Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/4550-new-zeiss-cmm-sensor-129300/#findComment-13860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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