[Ri...] Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 If anyone can help who has Planner, I need the Xs, Ys and Zs values. See attached image. it seems Calypso doesn't understand how to apply the proper settings when creating a new Machine tab. 🙄RDS XXT Settings.JPG Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/5316-rds-xxt-planner-settings/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Jü...] Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/5316-rds-xxt-planner-settings/#findComment-18660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ka...] Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Hi Rick, This is one of the "magic" settings of planner. My planner is working fine with this settings. Nevertheless, one of the real obscure things is the way how to set up the stylus. That is a little horror every time. regards Karsten Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/5316-rds-xxt-planner-settings/#findComment-18662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 I see what I forgot to do. The second time thru I added 30 to the Y axis, it should have been doubled. My Z is 108.1020 Thanks for the help! Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/5316-rds-xxt-planner-settings/#findComment-18664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 And it doesn't work... This is on a Laptop that only had v2019 installed. I installed v2021. Added an RDS XXT head. I can't get the stylus to match a point to save my life regardless of values entered. Y axis is always off target by approx. 30mm (Best guess) and the targets are also off by approximately the radius of the MasterProbe.Cadcube.JPG Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/5316-rds-xxt-planner-settings/#findComment-18666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Cl...] Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 This is from on-line help. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/5316-rds-xxt-planner-settings/#findComment-18668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Please sign in to view this quote. Planner and a real machine are completely different. A real machine pulls the actual offset directly from the controller. Planner is a simulation, so there is a nominal offset. The offset has changed many times over the years (I don't know why). I've had issues over the years with the offset either not getting updated correctly or not being implemented correctly. Either way, I would create a new machine tab, and go through this process all over again. I haven't had much luck just changing the offset. Thanks. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/5316-rds-xxt-planner-settings/#findComment-18670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 -Zm @ 188.1020 didn't work. I added the radius of the stylus: 2.5 196.6020 That made the stylus correct in Z but X and Y are buried into the model by approximately the radius of the stylus. prior to v2018, this wasn't an issue. Every install is different...Why? I've had to have Zeiss fix every install from v2018 up to the latest.Cadcube_Z.JPGCadcube_-Y.JPG Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/5316-rds-xxt-planner-settings/#findComment-18672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[To...] Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 The best answer that I can add to this conversation is to go into Stylus System Creator, and open up your MasterProbe.ssc file. Click on the PDF button and then find the Z value of the master probe and use it for the Z in the offset value. X will always be 0 and Y will always be -60.masterprobe ssc 1.JPGmasterprobe ssc 2.JPG Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/5316-rds-xxt-planner-settings/#findComment-18674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 The problem is that while there can be multiple instances of Calypso installed, there can only be one instance of SSC installed. They have changed the MasterProbe stylus properties before. Like I said, I've had this issue before, and the only things that have worked for me is to recreate everything. New machine tab with the latest offsets, and in addition re-create your MasterProbe buildup in your latest version of SSC. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/5316-rds-xxt-planner-settings/#findComment-18676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted April 2, 2023 Author Share Posted April 2, 2023 I have followed every instruction in this post and others I have found, not one time has anything worked. I have no idea how many offline systems I have installed, maybe had an issue once or twice in the past 15 years or so. Until now. Its always off by what appears to be, half the stylus diameter. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/5316-rds-xxt-planner-settings/#findComment-18678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ka...] Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Hi Rick, I have to agree to Richards tipp: Set up a complete new virtual machine. I did the same with Zeiss Service together because they also do not know what happens. So far I remember they rename the config directory to be sure that there are no side effects from previours system setup. To do that you need to stop the SQL service (SDCO) which have open some files in the config tree. My simple Test is to enable the koordinate lines to the stylus. If the zero point is in the middle of the Stylus, everything is O.K. Actual ( CALYPSO 7.4.08 ) I need to remove a complete stylus system created with 7.0.20 before I can add a new stylus 😱 Unfortunately, this software is more of an accident than a useful tool. And as far as I know, it is no longer being developed or repaired. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/5316-rds-xxt-planner-settings/#findComment-18680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted July 8, 2024 Author Share Posted July 8, 2024 Another new RDS install for Planner. And once again, the same issue. The masterprobe stylus is half the diameter into the model (Cadcube.sat). I have followed every known instruction to solve this issue, none of them are a fix. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/5316-rds-xxt-planner-settings/#findComment-18682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted July 8, 2024 Author Share Posted July 8, 2024 I just noticed and went back thru my notes, nearly every time this issue came up, the MasterProbe was imported with a "zero" radius. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/5316-rds-xxt-planner-settings/#findComment-18684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Je...] Posted July 9, 2024 Share Posted July 9, 2024 Please sign in to view this quote. The MasterProbe is always imported with 0.0000 radius in Planner. It must be changed manually to the proper size for the sensor your are using. No need to consult your notes, all the steps are laid out for you. A quick search of the Knowledge Base would have resolved your questions: https://portal.zeiss.com/knowledge-base?id=520919 - Planner setup https://portal.zeiss.com/knowledge-base?id=2127111 - Common articles/how-tos Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/5316-rds-xxt-planner-settings/#findComment-18686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted July 10, 2024 Author Share Posted July 10, 2024 Please sign in to view this quote. I don't recall this in the past, but added to my notes. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/5316-rds-xxt-planner-settings/#findComment-18688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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