[ni...] Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Hello, I'm measuring a polygon profil P3G (DIN 32711) without curve, so in 3 points and I am aligned on the Ø3 (+theorical rotation) who is machined on the same position machine. the Ød5 is 0.009 mm tolerance. is it possible to make the planar rotation on the P3G itself ? or how would you do mesure the P3G (Ød5) thanksP3G.JPGd5.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Da...] Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 In my opinion, with such a small area of R2 to put points on, 3 Diameter would be the better choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[ni...] Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 R2 doesn't exist, the surface is evolutive I can mesure three circle (with deformation), can I use them to make a new referentiel ? how3cercles.JPGdeformation.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Er...] Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 If you don't need to align it to the 3mm hole, I would consider taking points on each side equal distance, and creating a symmetry point. I would loop your base alignment to make sure it aligns accurately, and check the profile accordingly. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Gu...] Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Hello, did you tried to scan the polygon as a circle and then set it as tangentiel extern and intern (to get d5 / d6) ? try to scan it slow (maybe 4-5 mm/sec) with lots of points (0.05-0.1 mm/point) Hope it will help 🙂 Guillaume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mi...] Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 You can try following version: - create 3 circles at the position of R2 - open position with the hole pattern (in german it is called Lochbildeinpassung) an select the 3 circles, on this way you get the new coordinate system Einpassung1 - now create a circle in this new coordinate system (in my example i tried with 3 single points) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[ni...] Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 @ Eric : good, seems to work, i'll make some repeta and see the delta between old method and yours. @Guillaume : no curve no scan on my calypso 😠 😠 😠 😠 @Michael when I define a point at 0 on system Einpassung1, it's like it is actualy at 0 on Base system !! don't work like I want. other question, how do you make three circle (or point) with one ony element --Punk1(3)-- Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mi...] Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 The CAD-Model is drawn at the theoretical values, you cannot see a difference. We used this several times for hole pattern and we#ve got good an repeatable results. The 3-Circle-Thing is just a pattern: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Gu...] Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 For polygon profiles there are ready-to-use CALYPSO programs for evaluation at ZEISS in Oberkochen. These can be purchased via the order programming in Oberkochen. If you are interested, ask for information on "myPTY" measurement plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Er...] Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Also, if it doesn't need to be aligned to the OD, (it's a profile with no Datums, or only 1 Datum) you could consider aligning to itself using a 3d Best Fit Alignment. Use points from the Profile for the Alignment, and check your profile points to the alignment. It works pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[ni...] Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 i tried several methode of alignment, the repetability is good for all, but the accuarcy is not good when directly orientated on the P3G. i 'll stiil do the planar rotation on the Ø3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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