[Ja...] Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Anyone venture away from using paper and more towards the electronic reports to the machinists? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ch...] Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 We have tablets setup at each workstation. Saved a ton of money on paper and toner by doing this. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ja...] Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 Chad, how is the reports sent? is it like a pdf to a file or maybe using piweb? Just trying to get a good idea how other places are doing it. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Da...] Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 I only print the first part, after that its all cad view pdf's and pdf reports. All our machinists have a computer by their workstation. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Da...] Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Pdf goes to results file then I manually forward it to the job folders. I use two monitors so I just drag and drop on a split screen. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Gu...] Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Pdf is ok but not interactive. Please check the concept for "automated error analysis" with reporting in CALYPSO 2022. See video at approx. 1:35:00. https://e.video-cdn.net/video?video-id= ... l-id=87496 Can be used as a CALYPSO single-user solution with PiWeb reporting/reporting plus or as a server solution with PiWeb sbs ZEISS Portal => ZEISS Academy => Tutorials: https://portal.zeiss.com/academy/video-tube/imt Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Da...] Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Good morning , An interactive report sounds great! however the internet police at my work have blocked me from watching either of the videos. I would like to know , is the size of the record much larger than a PDF, and is it suitable as a permanent record ? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Je...] Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Please sign in to view this quote. . Guenter, This is a very innovative idea. I appreciate the effort to make the software smarter. Is there a free PiWeb viewer application that my customers, both inside customers (machinists, etc.) and outside customers, can download in order to view the interactive report? Nearly all of Zeiss's competitors have a free interactive viewer application, and GOM provides one as well. . Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ch...] Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Please sign in to view this quote. We have ours setup so that operators can only access the part folder for their station. I use batch files to copy from main results folder to folder that the operators can access. That's basically it. I like things simple and didn't want to make it "too smart". We still allow the operators to select the report and access their old data. No need to get fancy. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ri...] Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 MCC was the way when it was still a thing. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Jo...] Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Please sign in to view this quote. Hello Jeff, PiWeb does offer a free viewer which is basically a limited version of PiWeb Monitor. I think however for your application, especially with the use case of bringing results to the shop floor can be combined very well with interactive reports. In PiWeb 8.2 which was released earlier this year we also came out with a tool set if you are working with ballooned drawings. We will be giving a webinar on this later this year but if you are interested I can send you a presentation in advance 🙂 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ow...] Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Please sign in to view this quote. This is what you need Dave $$$. https://www.zeiss.com/metrology/solutions/edm.html Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Je...] Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Please sign in to view this quote. . Joshua, Thank you for educating me on these features. I will definitely sign up for the webinar you mentioned. You are welcome to send me a copy of the presentation, but I can also wait for the webinar if necessary. Jeff Frodermann Cretex Medical 8701 95th Ave. N Brooklyn Park, MN 55445 Phone: 763.712.2291 Em: jwfrodermann@meiertool.com . Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Is...] Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Please sign in to view this quote. Maybe someone in your company has already the solution or the knowledge, We send everything to an SQL server (also PDF and zmp files) and we have global access to the data, when we have hundreds (or thousands) of measurements we just sort values by the maximum deviation. The advantage of have a local solution is that basically you implement everything you need, however there are also many disadvantages like the risk to lose the developer(s). viewtopic.php?p=28558#p28558 Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Je...] Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Please sign in to view this quote. . Joshua, I had one more follow-up question. Where is the free PiWeb viewer that you mentioned? Does a company need to have PiWeb Monitor or a machine serial number in order to download this? Can I point my customers who do not have PiWeb or Zeiss machines to this viewer? Thanks. . Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ja...] Posted August 10, 2022 Author Share Posted August 10, 2022 A Pi-Web viewer would be interesting to look into. right now we use pi-web sbs and seats would get on the expensive side getting so many. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Is...] Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 I have the impression that there is nothing really free.. since I know every Monitor license is around $1500, is also possible to negotiate the cost by package and there are also floating licenses.. BTW, we have some Piweb Licences and in general we still don't like it. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Je...] Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Please sign in to view this quote. . Israel, that's exactly the point I am referring to. The interactive report is not accessible to my customers. It's like buying a fancy sportscar to show off at parades but never allowing it to leave the garage. There is no free PiWeb viewer. It's "free" if you pay for a license. . Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Er...] Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Please sign in to view this quote. Joshua, How can we get this free Piweb viewer you are referring to? Can we download it? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Er...] Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 I just use the Inspection End batch file method to copy to the server for them to access the PDF's. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Je...] Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Please sign in to view this quote. . Erik, That's a smart way to provide accessibility to pdf's, but that does not give my customers access to the interactive report, where they can rotate the model and investigate features of interest at will. . Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Jo...] Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Please sign in to view this quote. Hello Eric, A PiWeb monitor viewer is available starting in our last release 8.0, and is available to all PiWeb sbs / enterprise customers. If a customer wants to use this functionality, they simply need to install PiWeb Monitor on a PC without a license using the general PiWeb installer. (There is no separate installer or option for the viewer). If a license is not found on the PC, PiWeb Monitor will start in a limited "viewer" mode instead of throwing a license exception. If you have any further questions or feedback, feel free to reach out to me directly. josh.smokovitz@zeiss.com Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Je...] Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Please sign in to view this quote. . Joshua, Let's say, for example, that I have a customer who does not have any Zeiss equipment. They do not have PiWeb sbs or enterprise. Can they still download the viewer you mentioned for free? . Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Jo...] Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Please sign in to view this quote. Hello Jeff, Yes, a person without SBS/Enterprise can use the viewer. However, with the viewer, the viewer does not allow the user to make any configuration, change data binding or search criteria. If the reports are sent preconfigured to an end user of the viewer, then yes, this would work. Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Se...] Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Please sign in to view this quote. ...and is the PiWeb monitor viewer also available for customers who don't have sbs/enterprise at all? Link to comment https://qualityforum.zeiss.com/topic/9766-floor-reports/#findComment-46116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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