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Question to people who have installed 8.0 on their machines: When measuring the part, I have a delay of sometimes even 3 seconds after each feature measured. I'm suspecting it takes this long to "save" measurement points somewhere. I don't have this delay on 7.8. Anyone else experiencing this?

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We have a second CMM in our lab with 8.0 installed - basic install - no add on's - works fine, no lag

My machine has the profiler and surface package installed too - No problem in 7.8 - big lag in 8.0

Don't know if if it could be related to the add on packages. Our local Zeiss support has been informed of this lag.

 

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Hi Wojciech

I was just contacted by my local Zeiss support. They are on the case, and wanted a screen dump on the firmware of my machine. The firmware on my machine, which lags, is V31.22. with RDS probe installed

The other machine, which works, has V31.23 with VastXT probe installed.

You can find your firmware version under Extras - Error report

May be firmware related - I'll keep you updated.

firmware_version_screen.jpg

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Patches are "full" installs now without external dependencies (like C++ Redistributables, drivers, secondary models etc).  Service Packs are complete installs, same as "Base Version".  Base version is no longer necessary to install once a Service Pack is available (as of release of 7.8.12 and newer)

 

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I would also review your network use.  Are you running programs off a network?  Storing "actuals" on network (this is a big no-no)

 

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Look for fixes in Service Pack releases.  You will likely not see a simulation fix in a Patch (Patches are not tested to the same standard as Service Packs and are focused on high-priority bugs).  Simulation bugs are not generally patch resolved as it does not affect real-time machine related measurement.

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I don't think network is an issue. I have the programs running from the same network on both 7.8 and 8.0 machines and and 7.8 doesn't have slowdowns. Also, the machines that have 8.0 did not have slowdowns on 7.8. I've installed 8.0 on one machine and noticed the slowdown. I was curious if its specific to this one machine so I installed 8.0 on the other machine - slowdowns appeared immediately. To test, I've copied some plans to the desktop and run from there - the machine was still "thinking" for a few seconds before starting the run - noticeably longer than on 7.8.

 

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7.8.12 was working fine for me in terms of speed, can't tell you anything about blank clearance planes, sorry.

 

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Thanks for the updates!

I'm not sure if its firmware related as one of the machines is pretty new from 2023 and the other is from 2017 and both show the issue. I will try to install 8.0 on a machine from 2011 to see if there is a difference.

Thanks for the help!

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So I've installed 8.0 and based on the feedback from other operators all the XTR machines have the delay, meanwhile the XT machine works fine. I think its likely that the possibly of rotation affects the delay. Maybe the  machine is "thinking" whether it has to rotate or not, since its affecting both the RDS and XTR, but XT works fine.

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What is broken about the simulation for you? One of the earlier patches they released 'fixed' simulation for me. However, to get the simulation to properly display the sensor movements I had to re-position the CAD model within the virtual CMM measuring volume (something I never did before.) I opened a support ticket asking about why the model had to be positioned this way now and was essentially told 'that is how it needs to be now.' This is unfortunate, because all CAD models default to machine zero when imported meaning you will need to re-position all models from now until the end of time for the 2025 and beyond simulation to function.

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Its not the positioning, its the performance. Its terribly slow - to the point its unusable. 7.8 had other issues (like XTR not rotating), but the performance was OK. Since 8.0 its broken. I don't think the performance of PC has an effect - someone earlier in the thread mentioned its unusable for them with vastly more powerful computer than mine.

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