Calypso 8.0

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From what I've seen so far it fixes the issue of automatic feature recognition when manually probing (used to be minutes before the hit registered), but the slow running of the plans is still there.

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Downloading with fingers crossed:

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FYI no difference in simulation.

EDIT - why only some posts can be edited? I couldn't add info to the above post.

Edited September 30, 2025
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Can the new Calypso already be used productively, or should one wait a little longer?

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VAST XT has no issues AFAIK, it's the rotational systems that are problematic. In retrospect, I would probably be better of staying at 7.8. My biggest issue with 7.8 is that the XTR doesn't rotate in simulation. It does rotate in 8.0, but the whole simulation is broken so it doesn't really help 😉

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Hasn't this problem been known for a long time? Isn't Zeiss doing anything about it?

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I always wonder how major bugs like this make it into a release version unnoticed (or are they? 🤔). It's starting to feel like the game market: Years of development and postponed release dates, but the final product still s*cks.

Edited October 2, 2025

[[Lu...]]

Is simulation the main issue with 8.0 or are there other issues? I am in the process of updating 2 cmms to 2025 and am wondering if i should go a version down instead. We don't use simulation on these cmms so if that is the main issue then it would still work for me

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There is still serious lag time between measured features. It almost doubled the measuring time on a few tests we've done.

[[Ka...]]

We will receive another DuraMax at the beginning of December, this time with CALYPSO 8.0. Neither the sales department nor the technical sales department is aware of any problems with CALYPSO 8.0.
We are developing on 7.4.24, which should be 100% compatible with 8.0. they say. Only the local PiWeb data will not be compatible.

I am very concerned about receiving a version that belongs in intensive care rather than in production. Fingers crossed that a usable service pack will be released by December.

I am speechless about the poor quality of 8.0. Probably tested at the last Oktoberfest by ZEISS...

Regards
Karsten

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I've been using 8.0 for a while, and other than the simulation issue I haven't really experienced any other issues. 

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, I echo Richard.  Other than the simulation issue, I have not experienced major problems in 8.0.  To the contrary, I've been delighted by quite a few noteworthy improvements and new capabilities.

The simulation issue, however, is a major problem, and not just because of the functional inadequacy.  Zeiss's silence and lack of customer care on the issue is perhaps even more problematic.

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@Jeff & @Richard

Thanks for your information that reassures me somewhat.
Yesterday, I ordered a trial licence to get an impression for myself. Unfortunately, it cannot be used productively on a CMM, and the simulation does not seem to work at all.

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I can only agree with Jeff and Richard. I don't have any problems with 8.0 either; in fact, I'm very satisfied. Since I don't have a Planner seat, I'm not familiar with the simulation issues.

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I'm curious, what probe head are you using? VAST XT, XTR, RDS? In our case, VAST XT has no issues, but the RDS and XTR are waaay slower than usual. 

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We utilize the RDS/XXT; RDS/DotScan, XXT Direct, XTR, and Vast Gold. 

The only lag I would say Calypso has is when doing a lot of Simultaneous Evaluations, but this has been an issue since 2023 with the introduction of the new GD&T engine. 

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We use RDS XXT and I can not detect any delay in the measurements

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Ive noticed this recently when doing programs without a CAD model.  Evaluating GDT position takes like 5 seconds per feature element.  But on programs that have a cad model, its instantaneous.  Cant figure out why that would matter! 

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I wonder if there is a specific setting that affects the performance of articulating probes on 8.0. Our programs are running about 30% longer. There is usually a delay of 5-10 seconds between measurements. On XT there is no issue. For a couple of weeks I've two machines on 8.0 and two on 7.8 and the same plan would take much longer on 8.0. Curiously, yesterday I've had a XT adapter plate with "Z-" only probe in XTR and there was no delay. So for anyone thinking about upgrading to 8.0 - your programs might run slower - or they might not - who knows?

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There seems to be a significant, albeit undefined, difference in the performance of individual metrics compared to previous versions.
A 30% slowdown would be a definite ‘no-go’ of Version 8.0 for us.

What is needed here is a clear statement from Zeiss that clearly shows under what conditions performance losses (still) occur.

Or perhaps ZEISS has really aligned itself with the gaming sector in terms of software development and is letting users test half-finished software at their expense...

 

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I can confirm a slowdown too in running programs in version 8 compared to version 7 on my machine with XXT head

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Downloading! We'll see if it works

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FYI, the new patch fixes the slowdown issue in 8.0. Just tested it and it works!

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Does anyone else have issues with actually  opening the new GD&T characteristics? it takes me  a full 5 seconds to open these and view them.